Estradiol
Grandfathered
TLDR Version:
Level 20 Twinking sounds fun and Imma gonna do it!
Long-winded stuff:
After Emerald Nightmare in Legion, after 13 years together, my guild, the ones I had the pleasure of playing with almost all went our separate ways. Was bummed for awhile that I couldn't find a new group or guild, because apparently tanking became popular over the years. I liked having that nice cushy job.
With reluctance, I canceled my sub last year. Between my career and other personal engagments, plus having no one to play with and/or general "I have been playing since the age of dinosaurs" burnout, I didn't have the time or desire to play anymore.
Fastforward to a week ago. Through no fault of my own, I am now unemployed. It sucks, sure, but I am taking it in stride. After dabbling in some fun old games from GoG, it happened, I started to get that WoW itch. I said "wth" and redownloaded, I was aware of the "hey you can play free to level 20" thing. A few things seem to have changed, so I am asking nicely for info and clarification, and at the end, I will share what I think (and hope!) is an amazing thing.
1) Do enchants work on gear again for PvP again? If so, can higher level enchants be put on lower tier BoAs or does flat iLvl still provide more return?
2) I have read conflicting things about whether you should wear "armor meant for your class" to get 5% bonus stats, is that still a thing, or is Mastery something that only applys at higher levels?
This question is relevant to me, because I have played warrior since ye olde days of yore, and love being flag carrier in those types of Battlegrounds, as such, sometimes plate isn't always the best option for stats.
3) Can F2P players join guilds? I know I can't use the mailbox, or whisper windows (sans battle.net ID).
4) I have enough gold on my main (<WoW hoarder), to activate my account for 1 month via battle token. Relevance to this is, could I use gold to activate my account, use alllll of the gold I have aquired on my level 20 (I will explain how below, thats the awesome thing I was talking about) to purchase the rest of my bank slots/reagent bank/bigger bags/other misc things I can actually get from the AH? If so, will they still be usable once my sub runs out again, since "normally", F2P accounts can't normally obtain all bank slots/reagent bank?
5) If #4 is successful, and lets say, for lack of a better argument, I make 5000g from the method I will relay to you all (the potential is WAY higher), the cap would go back to 10g. Would I still "keep" all the gold I earned through this method. I.E. the day my sub expires I have 5000, would i lose 4990 to be at 10 or would I just not be able to earn more til I am under cap.
Ok, either you have all been curious (or don't really care lolol) about this gold thing I keep talking about. Allow me to share my experience with you. I went into F2P completely blind. I made my little blood elf, strapped on some BoA gear and my Orc taxi driver and leveled to 20 fairly quickly. I was at around 9g and some change when my piddly little 6 slot bags were full of ruined leather scraps and amazing grey weapons.
NBD, I was level 20, and had bought the riding skill about a half hour earlier, traveler mammoth time! No need to use that 30 minute heartstone that I forgot to reset. I made it to my main pack, and all of a sudden I couldn't vendor anything else, despite having 8 items left. "Wtf?" I say to myself. That is when I realized there, dang they were serious about 10g cap. Wtf am I supposed to do with only 10g?
Well, for awhile after hitting ghostlands, I would run all the way back to silvermoon city every 2-3 quests to buy a Huge Brown Sack, 12 slot bag for 9g. Even with that, going back and forth every 3 quests was REALLY getting old, so after my main bags were all 12s, I sat in deep thought for a moment, trying to turn my F2P into a profitable one, in the case I might want to dabble in the expansion proper, or get some bank battlenet balance.
I scoured WoWhead for things I had access to farming/otherwise acquiring as a level 20. No pet battles (Boo!), although archaeology is a thing, with the toys that teach flightpaths, I suppose that wouldn't be "so" bad. As I was vendoring more notched shortswords to my mammoth, I made a startling and potentially life changing discovery.
(Goblin guy for horde, not sure for alliance) the repair person on the mount, sells Eternium thread, a Cata reagent if I remember correctly, for 3g a pop. Dang, that is steep when you have a 10g you might say, plus you can't even use them! Well that my friends, is the beauty of it. A kind of stock to invest in. Here's the breakdown of the math.
Through faction city reputation, a f2p player can (eventually) get all 7 faction 16 slot bags. This is the perfect amount, 4 on your person, 3 for the bank. Eternium thread costs 3g each, and vendors for 75s each, and stacks up to 200. A full stack would vendor for 150g. There are 28 slots in the bank, and 3 - 16 slot bags, courtesy of faction quartermasters for a total of 48 slots. So, initially, the bank can hold 76 stacks of 200 Eternium Thread. (76 stacks x 150g/stack = 11,400g and no AH cut!).
For sake of argument, we will assume that not all F2P people will have an authenticator, so we will pretend everyone still has a main pack with only 16 slots (for simplicity sake). So 4 - 16 bags plus 8 (half) of the main pack (keep some space for consumables or other items etc) equals 72 slots. 72 stacks times 150g a stack equals 10,800g.
10,800 + 11,400 = 22,200g
F2P accounts, if I read right, can "make" 9 unique classes. (No DKs or DHs). So, I realize it is time consuming, however, if you repeat this process on all 9 unique classes, you get twofold benefit. The most important one being, you have all 9 classes to PvP with, whatever you feel like playing that day! The other thing is, if you are someone who occasionally resubs, 22,200 x 9 characters = 199,800g. If you don't mind having duplicates for whatever reason, then 22,200 x 11 characters = 244,200g. As of the time I am typing this, that is enough for 2 tokens, can bank 1 token for bnet balance or have 2 months of time.
Last part I will need help/clarification on. It is vitally important that during the month your account is "active" you do not gain xp. That's a given, turn off xp. If you remember to turn it back "on" before your sub runs out, will you still be able to queue for BGs once your account goes inactive again? If not, then my whole plan is for nothing. ><
Also, if the earlier example works, and reagent banks/other bank slots/ bigger bags are obtainable, the math goes up immensly. Reagent bank has 98 slots. Embroidered Deep Sea bags are 32 slots. 32 slots x 11 (number of bags on person and in bank) + 28 in main bank, plus 8 for (half) of main pack.
486 slots x 150 per stack of eternium thread = 72,900g (per character)
72,900 x 9 = 656,100g or 72,900 x 11 = 801,900g
Sorry for the huge post >< I ramble. In conclusion (as you can see from all that effin math, I have some time on my hands. My "main" level 20 atm is Estradiol, a Blood Elf Prot Warrior.
TinyBear#1353 - say hi if you get bored!
<3
Level 20 Twinking sounds fun and Imma gonna do it!
Long-winded stuff:
After Emerald Nightmare in Legion, after 13 years together, my guild, the ones I had the pleasure of playing with almost all went our separate ways. Was bummed for awhile that I couldn't find a new group or guild, because apparently tanking became popular over the years. I liked having that nice cushy job.
With reluctance, I canceled my sub last year. Between my career and other personal engagments, plus having no one to play with and/or general "I have been playing since the age of dinosaurs" burnout, I didn't have the time or desire to play anymore.
Fastforward to a week ago. Through no fault of my own, I am now unemployed. It sucks, sure, but I am taking it in stride. After dabbling in some fun old games from GoG, it happened, I started to get that WoW itch. I said "wth" and redownloaded, I was aware of the "hey you can play free to level 20" thing. A few things seem to have changed, so I am asking nicely for info and clarification, and at the end, I will share what I think (and hope!) is an amazing thing.
1) Do enchants work on gear again for PvP again? If so, can higher level enchants be put on lower tier BoAs or does flat iLvl still provide more return?
2) I have read conflicting things about whether you should wear "armor meant for your class" to get 5% bonus stats, is that still a thing, or is Mastery something that only applys at higher levels?
This question is relevant to me, because I have played warrior since ye olde days of yore, and love being flag carrier in those types of Battlegrounds, as such, sometimes plate isn't always the best option for stats.
3) Can F2P players join guilds? I know I can't use the mailbox, or whisper windows (sans battle.net ID).
4) I have enough gold on my main (<WoW hoarder), to activate my account for 1 month via battle token. Relevance to this is, could I use gold to activate my account, use alllll of the gold I have aquired on my level 20 (I will explain how below, thats the awesome thing I was talking about) to purchase the rest of my bank slots/reagent bank/bigger bags/other misc things I can actually get from the AH? If so, will they still be usable once my sub runs out again, since "normally", F2P accounts can't normally obtain all bank slots/reagent bank?
5) If #4 is successful, and lets say, for lack of a better argument, I make 5000g from the method I will relay to you all (the potential is WAY higher), the cap would go back to 10g. Would I still "keep" all the gold I earned through this method. I.E. the day my sub expires I have 5000, would i lose 4990 to be at 10 or would I just not be able to earn more til I am under cap.
Ok, either you have all been curious (or don't really care lolol) about this gold thing I keep talking about. Allow me to share my experience with you. I went into F2P completely blind. I made my little blood elf, strapped on some BoA gear and my Orc taxi driver and leveled to 20 fairly quickly. I was at around 9g and some change when my piddly little 6 slot bags were full of ruined leather scraps and amazing grey weapons.
NBD, I was level 20, and had bought the riding skill about a half hour earlier, traveler mammoth time! No need to use that 30 minute heartstone that I forgot to reset. I made it to my main pack, and all of a sudden I couldn't vendor anything else, despite having 8 items left. "Wtf?" I say to myself. That is when I realized there, dang they were serious about 10g cap. Wtf am I supposed to do with only 10g?
Well, for awhile after hitting ghostlands, I would run all the way back to silvermoon city every 2-3 quests to buy a Huge Brown Sack, 12 slot bag for 9g. Even with that, going back and forth every 3 quests was REALLY getting old, so after my main bags were all 12s, I sat in deep thought for a moment, trying to turn my F2P into a profitable one, in the case I might want to dabble in the expansion proper, or get some bank battlenet balance.
I scoured WoWhead for things I had access to farming/otherwise acquiring as a level 20. No pet battles (Boo!), although archaeology is a thing, with the toys that teach flightpaths, I suppose that wouldn't be "so" bad. As I was vendoring more notched shortswords to my mammoth, I made a startling and potentially life changing discovery.
(Goblin guy for horde, not sure for alliance) the repair person on the mount, sells Eternium thread, a Cata reagent if I remember correctly, for 3g a pop. Dang, that is steep when you have a 10g you might say, plus you can't even use them! Well that my friends, is the beauty of it. A kind of stock to invest in. Here's the breakdown of the math.
Through faction city reputation, a f2p player can (eventually) get all 7 faction 16 slot bags. This is the perfect amount, 4 on your person, 3 for the bank. Eternium thread costs 3g each, and vendors for 75s each, and stacks up to 200. A full stack would vendor for 150g. There are 28 slots in the bank, and 3 - 16 slot bags, courtesy of faction quartermasters for a total of 48 slots. So, initially, the bank can hold 76 stacks of 200 Eternium Thread. (76 stacks x 150g/stack = 11,400g and no AH cut!).
For sake of argument, we will assume that not all F2P people will have an authenticator, so we will pretend everyone still has a main pack with only 16 slots (for simplicity sake). So 4 - 16 bags plus 8 (half) of the main pack (keep some space for consumables or other items etc) equals 72 slots. 72 stacks times 150g a stack equals 10,800g.
10,800 + 11,400 = 22,200g
F2P accounts, if I read right, can "make" 9 unique classes. (No DKs or DHs). So, I realize it is time consuming, however, if you repeat this process on all 9 unique classes, you get twofold benefit. The most important one being, you have all 9 classes to PvP with, whatever you feel like playing that day! The other thing is, if you are someone who occasionally resubs, 22,200 x 9 characters = 199,800g. If you don't mind having duplicates for whatever reason, then 22,200 x 11 characters = 244,200g. As of the time I am typing this, that is enough for 2 tokens, can bank 1 token for bnet balance or have 2 months of time.
Last part I will need help/clarification on. It is vitally important that during the month your account is "active" you do not gain xp. That's a given, turn off xp. If you remember to turn it back "on" before your sub runs out, will you still be able to queue for BGs once your account goes inactive again? If not, then my whole plan is for nothing. ><
Also, if the earlier example works, and reagent banks/other bank slots/ bigger bags are obtainable, the math goes up immensly. Reagent bank has 98 slots. Embroidered Deep Sea bags are 32 slots. 32 slots x 11 (number of bags on person and in bank) + 28 in main bank, plus 8 for (half) of main pack.
486 slots x 150 per stack of eternium thread = 72,900g (per character)
72,900 x 9 = 656,100g or 72,900 x 11 = 801,900g
Sorry for the huge post >< I ramble. In conclusion (as you can see from all that effin math, I have some time on my hands. My "main" level 20 atm is Estradiol, a Blood Elf Prot Warrior.
TinyBear#1353 - say hi if you get bored!
<3
