Boot Enchants

[Grunge]

This thread is real dumb.

 

[Deaconator]

Ive tried both Stam boots and Speed boots, and personally, Speed is the much better option for Mages.

There's so much more utility in the +Speed than in the +7 Stamina.

These are two very good arguments for minor speed and are sucsessful in proving their points in a very good way.

Concshot/Wingclip = Hamstring ---> Same run speed

Concshot/Wingclip + Minor Speed > Hamstring ---> Warriors faster



You get what I mean?



Its hardly about open mindness if your just plain wrong. Prove your right and Ill be open minded. If I stated that 2+2=4 should I agree with you that 2+2=5 just because arguing would be close minded?

This is very closeminded, what you are insisting is that because the warrior is running faster speed is better. Your statement doesn't prove that speed is better then stam because a few things, the hunter won't conc/clip at the same time, the priest will use fear, the warrior has a partner. Like I said before, it is situational, I for one have both enchants and do use speed the most, all I am doing is saying it isn't the only option. Saying that speed is the hands down best no matter what, is the same as saying Fiery is better then Agility no matter what. You have to look at different situations for different classes and gear, if I could only use 1 enchant it would be speed, and I admit that, but someone has to defend other options, and if I'm the scapgoat then let it be.



You get what I mean?

 

[Doffe]

We are not close minded. We just >know< that minor speed is the best enchant for almost all situations. I only put on stamina enchanted boots when debuff is up, and I only use my 7 agility enchanted boots when I'm testing crits/dodge.

 

[hôp]

What about chamans in 3.2? should we put speed increase or 7stam? Cause i don't want to put speed increase if i have to change in 3.2 ^^

 

[Cratose]

i have minor speed on boots of the fang which i usually have on and then i have agi on feet of the lynx for rog fights... none of the chants are too expensive try em out see which one fits ur play style

 

[Tonkks]

Minor speed is EASILY the best chant everywhere, except for FCing when the debuff is up, then just throw a 7 stam on feet of the lynx

 

[ArthurianKnight]

gr1pp: let me ask you a simple question... if th eminor speed was th ebest for all boots, then why are many 29 twinks, if not the bests, not using the AB boots with included minor speed ?



i'm quite sure you dont even knew that 29s thought that the AB boots aren'T good enough as there is better. Minor Speed is not the best enchant on boots... BOAR SPEED and CAT SWIFTNESS were but the reality is this... in the twink community, survival is way better then anything else you could think of.



boar speed and cat swiftness were not just adding minor speed but also more usefull stats like stamina which boots your life up. now that these enchants cannot be used anymore, people are forced to gain that stam lost somewhere else. minor speed alone isn't making you stay alive longer.



a good exemple of it would be the so called conc shot you are talking about, or hamstring too... let's do some mats ok... i'm quite sure you dont even do those to begin with. so 100% is normal run speed, +8% from minor speed. conc shot and hamstring takes half that number... heres the fact... 108% / 2 = 54% speed. if you're opponent is not slowed at all, that little 4% more speed will barely give you 1/4th of a second to spare. while the +7stamina will give you a whole 70 mor elife which is mostly what a good twink will get you out of. absorbing one more shot will give you a good full second to spare, which to me is quite better.



let's take another exemple...

EFC has the running boots, he then proceed in taking a swiftness potion !

you really think that you're little minor speed increase will get him in time ?



i'm playing a hunter to begin with, i've taken the time countless times to know what was better for me to get, stam, agility or speed... believe it or not, stamina and agility came way higher on the chart then minor speed.



the fact is, minor speed is "SITUATIONNAL"

while the other enchants are "EVERY SITUATIONS"



that's why the choice is so great to make, and the why we're saying that they are personnal choice. my healing priest i'm making will be using minor speed, cause i have a need to be at a certain point in a certain amount of time. but besides getting me there faster, they won't protect me once i'll be in the melee. Minor speed, isn't an enchant made to gain you a ridiculous amount of speed in a pinch... its not even there to net you a clear advantage against an opponent. the fact is quite there, 8% does not help you get away from a warrior in a pinch. skill does on the other hand !





EDIT:

those who say they actually can kite with the minor speed increase should go look at the definition of kiting !

they'd be noticing how minor speed is far from being sufficient to effectively kite someone !

 

[Theme]

These are two very good arguments for minor speed and are sucsessful in proving their points in a very good way.

Nether of those is an argument at all. They are plain opinions. If I say I think milk is better than juice that doesnt really mean everyone should drink milk.

This is very closeminded, what you are insisting is that because the warrior is running faster speed is better. Your statement doesn't prove that speed is better then stam because a few things, the hunter won't conc/clip at the same time, the priest will use fear, the warrior has a partner. Like I said before, it is situational, I for one have both enchants and do use speed the most, all I am doing is saying it isn't the only option. Saying that speed is the hands down best no matter what, is the same as saying Fiery is better then Agility no matter what. You have to look at different situations for different classes and gear, if I could only use 1 enchant it would be speed, and I admit that, but someone has to defend other options, and if I'm the scapgoat then let it be.

I am not insisting anything on that argument rather than explaining what I meant at first place. But yes as I said, show me a situation apart from debuffed fc where stamina would won, I cant imagine one. And no I dont believe there needs to be someone to defend other opinions when they just are worse.



Edit: Also you really need to understand how situational 7sta really is. You get no benefit at all from it unless you visit <70hp. How often is that?

 

[happytoad]

Try playing a rogue with Agi to boots against any competent player with Minor Speed.



Failure will ensue.



EDIT: Ok, that wasn't fair. You might be able to kill them in the tunnel. Or if they are drinking.



...and they don't run away once you attack them.