Boot Enchants

[Deaconator]

If you actually believe anything of what you just wrote, you have a long loooong way to go, before you even become a remotely decent twink

Haha, you cannot back up what you say, just as I expected. Get at me when you can truly respond.

 

[Omgimarogue]

35+



lol10

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thanks - its edited out

 

[germs]

If you feel a hunters best enchant is minor speed then don't play hunter, if you are a fc and don't have a pair of stam boots then don't fc, if you are a healer/ cc mage and don't have stam boots reroll.

Apparently you don't know how to play this game, at all.

 

[Deaconator]

Apparently you don't know how to play this game, at all.

If you feel the need to have only speed boots, then you need to run with new people.

 

[Deaconator]

You cannot be single minded, you must always have different gear for different situations.

 

[Doffe]

You cannot be single minded, you must always have different gear for different situations.

Yes indeed. You need 7 stamina for the debuff, and you need 7 agility for your fun sets. And minor speed for everything else.

 

[Insertgold]

Minor speed is by far the best enchant for all classes, always has been, and probably always will be, with 2 tiny exceptions (and even using minor speed, while holding flag with debuff up can be a good idea).

Every "argument" to use anything else is very flawed at best, and downright retarded at worst.

I'd like to know why you think that about the bolded?

 

[Elairan]

Minor speed is the best.

 

[agility]

Im using:

feet of the lynx - minor speed

footpads of the fang - greater stamina



minor speed for chasing enemies, it's really usefull, mainly with getting the enemy flag carriers down.

And greater stamina for /Afk'ing with enemy flag in base or (sometimes) if a healer is with you it's a good choice as well

 

[Theme]

There is practically no situation where anything else than minor speed should be used (apart from debuff?). If there is plz point one out, I cant imagine one.

if you are a healer/ cc mage and don't have stam boots reroll.

Thats plain stupid statement. A healer is someone who needs the enchant most tbh. You cant be decent healer if you cant kite and you cant kite without the enchant.

 

[Tetrica]

In many situations as a Mage, Minor Speed is so much better than +7 Stamina. Basicly, you get out of melee-range faster if you ever would happen to be there. If you are in melee range long enough to need the benefit from +7 Stamina, you're doing something wrong.

 

[Deaconator]

Thats plain stupid statement. A healer is someone who needs the enchant most tbh. You cant be decent healer if you cant kite and you cant kite without the enchant.

In many situations as a Mage, Minor Speed is so much better than +7 Stamina. Basicly, you get out of melee-range faster if you ever would happen to be there. If you are in melee range long enough to need the benefit from +7 Stamina, you're doing something wrong.

So for arena you would only use minor speed? I personally would have extra stam. And if you are playing a mage and are in melee range long enough to benifit from 7stam, you are doing something wrong, Ill give you that, and it wouldn't be because your missing the speed, it would be because you don't know how to kite. And if you don't know how to kite without minor speed on any class, you aren't doing it right.

 

[Theme]

Nope there is not a single class I would play in arena without minor speed. I guess you havent done too much arena if you think a priest would benefit more from 7sta than minor speed against a rogue for example. Ability to kite without taking dmg is invaluable.



I dont think you realise how much minor speed affects apart from obvious kiteing. It means you move 8% faster, you can loss that hunter 8% faster than you could without. You are in range to sheep that enemy in 92% of time it would take otherwise. That warrior gets charge on you, takes 8% less time to move away. The benefit is huge.

 

[Deaconator]

Nope there is not a single class I would play in arena without minor speed. I guess you havent done too much arena if you think a priest would benefit more from 7sta than minor speed against a rogue for example. Ability to kite without taking dmg is invaluable.



I dont think you realise how much minor speed affects apart from obvious kiteing. It means you move 8% faster, you can loss that hunter 8% faster than you could without. You are in range to sheep that enemy in 92% of time it would take otherwise. That warrior gets charge on you, takes 8% less time to move away. The benefit is huge.

A good rogue would know to garrote, a good warrior would know to keep hamstring up, a good hunter would keep up conc/clip up, ect. It all depends on who you arena with, and how comfortable you are with your class. I for one carry stam/agi and speed boots.



I for one, am done with this thread, when you closeminded people see that your answer isn't always the only answer, I will continue. But I am no longer in school and will not play these kiddie games. Open your minds to other peoples opinions sometimes, it will take you far in this world.

 

[Theme]

What does garrote have to do with kiteing? I didnt realise it had a snare component. Yes its easy to say that "a good warrior would know to keep hamstring up" but when the priest has a hunter partner keeping the warrior slowed, whoops they move the same speed unless priest is an idiot without the minor speed. Or priest fears the warrior and hamstring runs out, priest could kite the warrior a good while if he had the speed. If you dont know how to use the speed for your advantage nor do your opponents maybe then I get you.

I for one, am done with this thread, when you closeminded people see that your answer isn't always the only answer, I will continue. But I am no longer in school and will not play these kiddie games. Open your minds to other peoples opinions sometimes, it will take you far in this world.

I am sorry but this has nothing to do with an open mind. You cannot push out any crap you want and tell peoples to be open minded. If you cant really argument for your claim, if you has to use "closeminded" arguments that means your talking crap.

 

[Deaconator]

=Yes its easy to say that "a good warrior would know to keep hamstring up" but when the priest has a hunter partner keeping the warrior slowed, whoops they move the same speed unless priest is an idiot without the minor speed.

THink about what you just said here. Concshot/Wingclip = reg run speed?

 

[rishi]

Deaconator, the role of mages at 19 for competitive players is CCing. This means just unloading Rank 1 Frostbolts (0.95 second cast), Frost Novas and Polymorphs. Getting that Frostbolt on the EFC at 30 yards range so your team can catch up (especially after patch 3.2) is crucial - many times its the difference between a win and a loss in premades. For a mage to get these off, they need to be able to catch up to their target as easily as possible. With no [Blink] at 19, speed is their only option.



Ive tried both Stam boots and Speed boots, and personally, Speed is the much better option for Mages. Health isnt a problem - in my CC set plus my team buffs, Im at 1.6k HP. On top of that I have a 720 Lifeblood HoT, 400 Naruu HoT and an AGM.

 

[Deaconator]

Apparently you don't know how to play this game, at all.

Minor speed is the best.

There is practically no situation where anything else than minor speed should be used

I am sorry but this has nothing to do with an open mind. You cannot push out any crap you want and tell peoples to be open minded. If you cant really argument for your claim, if you has to use "closeminded" arguments that means your talking crap.

You must have not read this whole thread, I have contributed to OP and backing up the fact that speed isn't the only viable enchant. Where is the crap in what I have said and the open mindedness in those quotes?

 

[Theme]

THink about what you just said here. Concshot/Wingclip = reg run speed?

Concshot/Wingclip = Hamstring ---> Same run speed

Concshot/Wingclip + Minor Speed > Hamstring ---> Warriors faster



You get what I mean?



Its hardly about open mindness if your just plain wrong. Prove your right and Ill be open minded. If I stated that 2+2=4 should I agree with you that 2+2=5 just because arguing would be close minded?



Yes Ive read the whole thread. Your main argument is "You should be open minded" thats it. Not very impressive. But I am off now Ill continue tomorrow if you feel like it.

 

[Tetrica]

So for arena you would only use minor speed? I personally would have extra stam. And if you are playing a mage and are in melee range long enough to benifit from 7stam, you are doing something wrong, Ill give you that, and it wouldn't be because your missing the speed, it would be because you don't know how to kite. And if you don't know how to kite without minor speed on any class, you aren't doing it right.

In Arena, I would use Minor Speed. If I would be in melee range for a short period of time it might not be because I don't know how to kite, but that a Nova got resisted, that an opponent trinketed, that a Rogue Garroted/Ambushed me, I might have gotten ConcShotted, there might be several things outside of being a bad kiter. Either way, in all cases Minor Speed would help me to get away faster. 8% can be quite a lot when someone like you wouldn't catch up due to running with +7 Stamina and not +Speed. You might say that you can't run away from a Hunter, but I can Poly and then run or LoS him. There's so much more utility in the +Speed than in the +7 Stamina.