Bis hunter
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Trijea
Legend
replace scope. replace shoulder enchant. replaced 2nd trinket. replace engi. replace cloak. and those r only the things that r not remotely debatable.
ya it can get a lot better than this
Dorigon
Alpha and Omega
Which changes nothing about the fact that linking a GF'd hunter in a thread like this is fairly pointless.
l30t53dd6p
OG
I have no problem with rogues at all, 99% of the time you see them comming and i am talking about 24 rogues, I still dont get 1 shot 99% of the time. I do understand the point you are making with healers but i dont run with 1500 hp in bg either, i have 2,1k in bg (got like 300 hp from scaling) and around 50% crit. Everything above 2k is acceptable for this bracket versus rogues. I dont run with my 24 hunter like this in bg but with a 20 hunter and that setup is bis and stronger then any 24 hunter, the few hitpoints you get from bis 24 gear doesnt make up for the dmg and crit. Thats why i am saying 20 > 24 hunter. Same health, same weapon damage but more crit.
Perhaps you care to explain why instead of giving one-liners and think you are such a great twinker and again i tested all of this.. did you? >.<
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l30t53dd6p
OG
I thought you didnt have anything to say to me? Perhaps you can experiment for yourself? If you have done that we can continue this debate about how wrong i am if you even can find any arguments at all other then loosing CS and cheetah?
Im all done with ego trippers like you anyways, i just tell how it is and you want to argue all the time it seems
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#ko
Legend
plz show us this 2100 hp with 50% cirt , pretty sure thats a lie seeing as the hunters u linked have 1600 and u dont gain 50 stam from scaling lol
so in the end ur trading what 10% crit.. 5% if we use wolf pet....for over 100ap some stam,loss of a max range interrupt and cheetah form...
and u clearly have no idea how to win hunter v hunter in this bracket so im not even gonna try and explain that
so in the end ur trading what 10% crit.. 5% if we use wolf pet....for over 100ap some stam,loss of a max range interrupt and cheetah form...
and u clearly have no idea how to win hunter v hunter in this bracket so im not even gonna try and explain that
l30t53dd6p
OG
1. I havent linked any hunters
2. I never said going all out on crit is bis
3. I don't lie
4. Never said I would get 50 stam from scaling
5. 100 ap is not better then 20% more crit. Recount does not lie
6. Stamina is worthless with all this burst. ! borean armor kit is gone in 1 crit sting/autoshot or normal expl dmg
7. CS is overkill when you have scatter and pet specials (l2control your pet)
8. Ive been playing hunter since classic in twink brackets, i know what i am talking about. Hence i am reaching 1000k account wide by playing twinks. You know anyone with more experience?
9. You can't explain. You haven't tried 20s properly
10. Cheetah? Getting dazzed. Posthaste and mount are sufficient.
11. Good bye
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#ko
Legend
1.
2.^ all crit
3. clearly...
4. ur right u said 30 stam my bad still a lie
5 what part of 10% crit 5% if we use wolf pet dont u understand.. i clearly didnt log off with crit scope on idiote
6. i agree
7. go ahdead overextend to use ur 20 yard scattershot to interrupt.. (using moth pet only makes the crit gap that much closer see#5)
8.congrats 1000k hks still lost
9. ive tried scaling with 16s and 20s thx
10. have a nice day jaja
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CIHC
That One OG
You linked that troll hunter qball something who had 1500hp in your almighty crit set... just cause you edited it out doesnt change the fact you did indeed link it so yes...
You are a lier and are stretching the truth to a fine line of transparent just so you can argue this fruitless battle of a bis hunter, I understand you don't want to be wrong with the amount of theory crafting that goes on in your head but you are laying out loaded scenarios and false numbers...
Also, there have yet to been any screenshots/recounts of hunters/you who run this goofy build but countless of 5.4 hunters running the ideal nontheory based BiS and pulling 200-400k
Swoops
Legend
Does scaling work differently in EU or something? It's not this magic incomprehensible thing that adds ridiculous amounts of power to characters...there are actual numbers there. It just makes BoAs the same for everyone. Your weapon damage goes up in BGs...to the same as a 24's. Same thing with base stats.
20 gets about 3 more crit rating than a 24 through scaling.
CS is overkill because you have pet interrupt. You'll use pet interrupt over 5% crit from a wolf, but you wont take counter shot over like 0.75% crit?
I'd take your argument more seriously, but when I dug up my post comparing 20/24 hunters awhile back I found the same BS about you knowing better and other people not experimenting. You were arguing that 24 was better than 20.
http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f40/20-vs-24-hunter-49609/#post669147
The only way I see you hitting the numbers you're making up is switching to heartseeker scope after a flintelocke's proc or satchel gear.
l30t53dd6p
OG
1. I linked a thread.
2. Correct but i am not saying that is how i roll or is bis.
3. No lie.
4. Also no lie.
5. I reach ~50% without crit scope.
6. Good.
7. Switching pets is hard >.<
8. Shows i have alot experience.. i don't lose anything i gain
9. Still you don't see that 20 > 24. So that failed.
10. Sorry i am not spanish ^^
I did yes to show max crit which was the question. But good, you are also assuming i play like that.. good for you.
Prove me wrong and i could ask again.. have you tried and compared?
Like i also said i am not going to the work for other people.. that is your own job you all want to be twinkers.
l30t53dd6p
OG
Atleast you proved me wrong and i liked your post, but i also explained why i had different numbers, i used different gear then your explenation. I based it on recount numbers i got from my 24 and 20 not from theory crafting on paper same as this.
Why don't you do it again now? It is all what i am trying to do again by being in this thread. I am just lazy to do the maths.
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Swoops
Legend
You lose your pet buff when you dismiss it now.
Scaling hasn't changed at all since then. The only differences are that both 20 and 24 use the BoA Gun, you can replace foreman's with expertise to bracers and skinning is probably better than engineering now.
If you want to compare crit heavy setups (gearing like Falconhoóf @ Stormscale - Community - World of Warcraft)
-2 cloak (satchel vs. be raptor cloak)
+1 bracers (both using black wolf bracers)
+3 gloves (fletcher's)
+1 belt (satchel)
20 will get 3 more agil in that gear too. So you gain +3 agil and +3 crit when you're using this questionable gear setup.
l30t53dd6p
OG
Hmm yes you are right, i just checked and noticed it. Never saw this before, shame they changed it.
You are forgetting level scaling in primary stats in bg which makes a 20 better with this gear then a 24. I am not playing with that full crit setup though and i dont use expertise at all. I believe that is not needed as hunter cause of so much cc and being ranged. You can shoot people in the back 2 ya know.
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#ko
Legend
Falconhóof @ Stormscale - Community - World of Warcraft full crit stacked hunter under 50% crit with scope and 1600hp
tell me some more about how u dont lie?
plz enjoy ur stay in imaginary hunter land while the rest of us play here in reality
l30t53dd6p
OG
It is not a lie. I play 20 with upped primary stats and not in that full crit setup gear. If i would have done so my 1600 hp would scale to like 1850/1900 hp in bg. Nice try comparing that 24 hunter to my 20. Also i have agms.
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