Savee
Goon Affiliated
igaf , take it up with someone who cares i was just clarifying the statement by eliot/sketch that aparently hurrx couldnt understand ( I never agreed, or disagreed with the statement )
Base Resilience Being Increased to 65%! (Patch 5.3)
- Thread starter Eliot
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igaf , take it up with someone who cares i was just clarifying the statement by eliot/sketch that aparently hurrx couldnt understand ( I never agreed, or disagreed with the statement )
Nakedplumber
Tink
Looks like some gay ass change. But nothing to be worried about, we see that quite often
Mocha
Legendary
Let's try a more expansive approach and interpret what this truly means.
Too much damage burst = being 1 shot / dying before you can do anything.
Too much healing burst = more difficult to kill specific targets. Heavily relies on coordination and CC to drop a target.
Less damage burst = people surviving longer.
Too much healing burst = more difficult to kill specific targets. Heavily relies on coordination and CC to drop a target.
This is simply Giving a team more time to coordinate to drop a specified target as opposed to in cata "Just dps it harder" to kill a FC. Heals can be completely countered and interrupted.
Much Love,
Mocha
Too much damage burst = being 1 shot / dying before you can do anything.
Too much healing burst = more difficult to kill specific targets. Heavily relies on coordination and CC to drop a target.
Less damage burst = people surviving longer.
Too much healing burst = more difficult to kill specific targets. Heavily relies on coordination and CC to drop a target.
This is simply Giving a team more time to coordinate to drop a specified target as opposed to in cata "Just dps it harder" to kill a FC. Heals can be completely countered and interrupted.
Much Love,
Mocha
lindenkron
OG
It's still quite retarded how 1 instant heal from almost any class equals a Lay on Hands. That's not a good thing, despite you seeing it as such. It's a good thing they brought in high resi to counter the retarded dmg there was in the bracket. Now they just need to scale the healing appropriate to character levels like it used to be.
My 1.8k hp 24 Ret paladin heals for 2.2k non crit Flash of Light. 4.4k crits (outside of BGs). 1.6k in BGs. 3.4k crits. I don't mind that an instant heal, or a flash heal healing you for 30-50% of your health, cus getting it off is a good thing. But critting you for 200% of your health? Really?
Healing does need to be fixed as well. Immortal healers is stupid.
Mocha
Legendary
And I agree that healing does need to be reduced by a large percent however, this change has no affect on healing in its current state.
Vianco
Legend
How do I counter 1800 holy shocks? And 1 rejuv that can outheal most of my dmg? inb4 "you have to cc them" well... now that healers are gonna be EVEN MORE OP I'm sure there will be a lot of fotm rerolls, and it's kinda impossible to not let all the opponents teams' healers get 0 globals off
Trialdruid
the Oracle
main problem of pvp according to world of warcraft forums was healing being too high, it got nerfed and other problem was burst being too high now it is being tweeked as well, they are adressing to the problems community is whining about but I guess you know better than thousands of other players
Mesikämmen
pwner
I have to agree that instants like hshock and swiftmend are too high at the moment. A cast time spell for 1,2k is really strong, too, but you can keep healers cc'd pretty well with right team so they can't cast. But dear god if you fail to overlap cc for 0,1sec, boom +1k instant 
Vianco
Legend
I guess that is true, but also in a bracket where you could get gems and gear that gave something counter this resilience this would be a very good change.
IllyBillyn
Legend
Good point but going from 40% resilience to 65% is a lot more than a tweak. It will requires some other compensatory changes or it will completely change the experience. Do you remember the lvl 10s in the 10-19 bracket way back when?
Increasing resilience from 40% to 65% increases survival time by ~71%. This is 'worse' than just increasing health by 71%, because it doesn't take as much healing to get the target back up to full health, so burst becomes even more important.
lindenkron
OG
As it is right now, healing has about 0% skill in it. Avoid sitting in a 6 sec paladin stun and you should be alright for survival with any healing cast on a global healing you to full.
As a clever guy pointed out further up, resilience is the absolute best scaling stats in the game - hence why everyone socket it for even a few % at higher lvl over other stats such as pvp power. Think healers are hard to kill now? Lol, j/k 5.3
But, as I've stated multiple times - twinks have a habit of coping one way or another - we've existed for almost a decade and I'd like to believe we always will. Somehow. Just ridin' the wave.
As a clever guy pointed out further up, resilience is the absolute best scaling stats in the game - hence why everyone socket it for even a few % at higher lvl over other stats such as pvp power. Think healers are hard to kill now? Lol, j/k 5.3
But, as I've stated multiple times - twinks have a habit of coping one way or another - we've existed for almost a decade and I'd like to believe we always will. Somehow. Just ridin' the wave.
tence
Legend
I think what blizz needs to end up doing is, instead of having a blanket healing reduction in pvp vs pve, make it so that resil reduces BOTH damage and healing then make PVP power increase healing by the same ammount (1-1 ratio) that way healers will actually take pvp power instead of just gemming spirit/resil.
since we cannot obtain pvp power this would also solve the problem of lower brackets healing too much (65% may end up being too much though).
since we cannot obtain pvp power this would also solve the problem of lower brackets healing too much (65% may end up being too much though).
Thuniador
Legend
I hope so or all ppl will get OP.