Anyone out there?
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Dorado
Grandfathered
Wow really? I thought a proper twink would be on par, the DK gear doesn’t seem that much better. Also DKs are missing a lot of damage without Obliterate and stuff aren’t they?
Warglave
Veteran
It's similar to hellfire quest gear, but more heavy on strength while the hellfire stuff loads up the stamina.
But pretty sure if you've done proper BC gearing in those first couple zones you should be OK. I think maybe the fact that there's a jillion of them is more of the problem than them being too strong individually.... just a hunch tho.
But pretty sure if you've done proper BC gearing in those first couple zones you should be OK. I think maybe the fact that there's a jillion of them is more of the problem than them being too strong individually.... just a hunch tho.
toskosa
Grandfathered
I don't remember my 59 priest in original wotlk having too hard of a time with dks, but ppl were a lot less informed back then and I farmed out a of tbc gear. although if I am being 100% honest the only thing I really remember form then is getting farmed in av by alliance paladins all day in our starting cave.....
Kirise
OG
Welcome back! You're correct, Wednesdays (and Sundays) were 59s' nights back in Wrath.
History lesson for all of you who didn't actually play 59s after the first BG segregation in 3.2, DKs were few and far between at 59 because they lacked a lot of abilities. Only 2 or 3 notable 59 DKs played on the regular (and spent the time to actually twink out their gear), while every couple of weeks we saw a new 59 DK come brazenly in to blow up games, and die so quickly (over and over) that they promptly left the game and the bracket.
DKs were strong at 59, but you had to put in the time to gear them out like any other bracket. Otherwise, the high burst at 59 evaporated you in a global or two.
Fez
OG
Oh yeah werent you the one that basically ran those nights? I lost all of my old videos and screenshots from back in the day. Storage and back ups all got blown up in a thunderstorm. Surge protectors failed.
I remember someone figured out how to force an AV queue with a 10v10 and we had a brawl in the field of strife till the resources ran out lol
Kirise is right. DK's were a non issue in this bracket back then. Most of them had no idea what they were doing and would get rolled through pretty quickly. There were a couple decent ones that stuck with the bracket we had a lot of fun playing with, though. Most of us had zg sets and dungeon sets that were pretty powerful from what I remember, so our gear made us pretty beefy. The DK starter gear was comparable, but couldnt carry you in our xp off games. Enchants and engy and stuff (etc) were basically mandatory.
Who was the warlock back then that basically spammed sapper charges and was damn near unkillable? That dude is the reason I main'd a lock for the next few years, lol!
Anywho, I havent played in years and dont have anything in classic. Are the fresh servers a good choice, or should I roll on an existing server that has all the necessary enchants and stuff? Actually i think i just answered my question, lol
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Yeah it was a numbers thing. Being yoinked back and forth a hundred times by multiples of death grips was hilarious lol!
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Are there no games popping at 59 or is this a server balance thing?
Out of curiosity, do you have an armory of your 59 warrior?
Here's mine:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/arthas/fëz
It's not exactly what i would be wearing, but you get the idea
thats interesting
now, ive never actually played 59s at all so there's that, but from my hearsay™ it was a really lopsided bracket w/ gnomes just being the GOAT due to sonic boosters, and gnome DK w/ two of those just being the low-hanging meme, but yea
Warglave
Veteran
I never really delved into it, but I do remember that tier .5 gear was pretty cool... not sure how effective, but cool.
It's interesting to me cuz you cant get the the level 60 talent so there's more reason to experiment with spreading them out in all the trees. As in ret pally cant get divine storm... that's a pretty huge difference compared to 60. DK cant get HB, which seems to strike a bell as limiting (havent even gotten one there yet, dont recall) but the draw for them is surely ease of gearing.
Eventually the DK rush will be gone through so after that if games to pop it could be a fun time... depends on levelers.
Usually does, huh?
It's interesting to me cuz you cant get the the level 60 talent so there's more reason to experiment with spreading them out in all the trees. As in ret pally cant get divine storm... that's a pretty huge difference compared to 60. DK cant get HB, which seems to strike a bell as limiting (havent even gotten one there yet, dont recall) but the draw for them is surely ease of gearing.
Eventually the DK rush will be gone through so after that if games to pop it could be a fun time... depends on levelers.
Usually does, huh?
Rtroutman
Member
https://seventyupgrades.com/set/wtyKQLJUg2nJidwF4tEc1G
It's a twink from vanilla classic, that I didn't play on TBC since 59 bracket was totally dead, you could get better enchant and a few better pieces.
Dorado
Grandfathered
Ah thats why you felt DK gear was far superior lol. 59 Outland stuff is way better than almost all of that, I'm not surprised you felt underpowered.
Desodelete
Veteran
It's bad enough that humans have thier 2 minute racial while the rest are stuck with 5 minute trinket, but gnomes being able to use sonic boosters and noise machine really kills motivation to play a horde 59.
So my 59 that I shelved at the start of tbc remains shelved. I'm not super optimistic about the the future perspective once the dks are gone either. Most twink players will go 79, 19, and 39 in my opinion.
So my 59 that I shelved at the start of tbc remains shelved. I'm not super optimistic about the the future perspective once the dks are gone either. Most twink players will go 79, 19, and 39 in my opinion.
Kirise
OG
I did a little promotion for 59s, but most of my forum promotion went toward the midbrackets (59 and up were considered the upper brackets at the time).
Totally forgot about that -- good memory!
They really were, and we had to gear stam-heavy. One of my favorite stories from wrath twinking exemplified the high requirements for playing in the midbrackets and for 59s:
We were all in Vent (that's right, Ventrilo), and my Horde shammy was in the thick of healing a huge brawl in the mid of WSG. Suddenly, someone shouted, "GRENADE!" For whatever reason, that triggered a pavlovian response and everyone on Horde randomly threw a grenade. Alliance evaporated. We thought the game seized or something, but after a couple of seconds, we realized what happened and died laughing. (Died on the field, because the Alliance respawned and we couldn't keep ourselves together, so they wiped us. Totally worth it.)
For that moment to even be possible, 59s had to have organized games, and everyone had to have leveled engineering to get the good bombs. In Wrath, the higher the bracket, the less of a chance a given twink actually capped their professions. I remember doing an analysis the armory threads at the time, and like 50% of 29s saw capped professions, 33% of 39s, and 25% of 49s capped their professions. But 59s took the numbers over 50%, because engineering was so critical to that bracket.
Good question, 59s had a couple of really strong locks!
Alliance did have the upper hand for those reasons, but it wasn't enough to make games lopsided, from what I remember. The wrath 59s Wednesday/Sunday schedule actually lasted longer than any of the midbrackets, including 39s, even though 39s got games daily for a while.
Every bracket had some insane grinds. For 59s, it was the ZG gear, ZG enchants (exalted rep by destroying bijous and only applicable to the specific character who reached exalted), 375 engineering, and a 450 gathering profession. Running around Northrend as a 59 to mine cobalt and saronite was a trip.