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I remember back in the day we had 59's night on Wed and some other day, i don't remember. Im downloading the game now, is there a designated 59's server?
 
PvP is interserver now. There are no more games at 59s. Currently a bit because there is the new DK class, but I experienced it with my warrior twink, you have no chances, their gear is far superior.
 
yeah its just gonna be 10/15/40 gnome dks vs another 10/15/40 gnome dks.
 
PvP is interserver now. There are no more games at 59s. Currently a bit because there is the new DK class, but I experienced it with my warrior twink, you have no chances, their gear is far superior.

Wow really? I thought a proper twink would be on par, the DK gear doesn’t seem that much better. Also DKs are missing a lot of damage without Obliterate and stuff aren’t they?
 
they get a much better blue-quality set from quests, which is more on par w/ like a level 65's or something
 
It's similar to hellfire quest gear, but more heavy on strength while the hellfire stuff loads up the stamina.

But pretty sure if you've done proper BC gearing in those first couple zones you should be OK. I think maybe the fact that there's a jillion of them is more of the problem than them being too strong individually.... just a hunch tho.
 
I don't remember my 59 priest in original wotlk having too hard of a time with dks, but ppl were a lot less informed back then and I farmed out a of tbc gear. although if I am being 100% honest the only thing I really remember form then is getting farmed in av by alliance paladins all day in our starting cave.....
 
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I remember back in the day we had 59's night on Wed and some other day, i don't remember. Im downloading the game now, is there a designated 59's server?

Welcome back! You're correct, Wednesdays (and Sundays) were 59s' nights back in Wrath.

History lesson for all of you who didn't actually play 59s after the first BG segregation in 3.2, DKs were few and far between at 59 because they lacked a lot of abilities. Only 2 or 3 notable 59 DKs played on the regular (and spent the time to actually twink out their gear), while every couple of weeks we saw a new 59 DK come brazenly in to blow up games, and die so quickly (over and over) that they promptly left the game and the bracket.

DKs were strong at 59, but you had to put in the time to gear them out like any other bracket. Otherwise, the high burst at 59 evaporated you in a global or two.
 
Welcome back! You're correct, Wednesdays (and Sundays) were 59s' nights back in Wrath.

History lesson for all of you who didn't actually play 59s after the first BG segregation in 3.2, DKs were few and far between at 59 because they lacked a lot of abilities. Only 2 or 3 notable 59 DKs played on the regular (and spent the time to actually twink out their gear), while every couple of weeks we saw a new 59 DK come brazenly in to blow up games, and die so quickly (over and over) that they promptly left the game and the bracket.

DKs were strong at 59, but you had to put in the time to gear them out like any other bracket. Otherwise, the high burst at 59 evaporated you in a global or two.
Oh yeah werent you the one that basically ran those nights? I lost all of my old videos and screenshots from back in the day. Storage and back ups all got blown up in a thunderstorm. Surge protectors failed.

I remember someone figured out how to force an AV queue with a 10v10 and we had a brawl in the field of strife till the resources ran out lol

Kirise is right. DK's were a non issue in this bracket back then. Most of them had no idea what they were doing and would get rolled through pretty quickly. There were a couple decent ones that stuck with the bracket we had a lot of fun playing with, though. Most of us had zg sets and dungeon sets that were pretty powerful from what I remember, so our gear made us pretty beefy. The DK starter gear was comparable, but couldnt carry you in our xp off games. Enchants and engy and stuff (etc) were basically mandatory.

Who was the warlock back then that basically spammed sapper charges and was damn near unkillable? That dude is the reason I main'd a lock for the next few years, lol!

Anywho, I havent played in years and dont have anything in classic. Are the fresh servers a good choice, or should I roll on an existing server that has all the necessary enchants and stuff? Actually i think i just answered my question, lol
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It's similar to hellfire quest gear, but more heavy on strength while the hellfire stuff loads up the stamina.

But pretty sure if you've done proper BC gearing in those first couple zones you should be OK. I think maybe the fact that there's a jillion of them is more of the problem than them being too strong individually.... just a hunch tho.
Yeah it was a numbers thing. Being yoinked back and forth a hundred times by multiples of death grips was hilarious lol!
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PvP is interserver now. There are no more games at 59s. Currently a bit because there is the new DK class, but I experienced it with my warrior twink, you have no chances, their gear is far superior.
Are there no games popping at 59 or is this a server balance thing?

Out of curiosity, do you have an armory of your 59 warrior?

Here's mine:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/arthas/fëz
It's not exactly what i would be wearing, but you get the idea
 
Seems like games only pop during late prime time, but I did see people in an AV a couple nights ago which shocked me
 
Welcome back! You're correct, Wednesdays (and Sundays) were 59s' nights back in Wrath.

History lesson for all of you who didn't actually play 59s after the first BG segregation in 3.2, DKs were few and far between at 59 because they lacked a lot of abilities. Only 2 or 3 notable 59 DKs played on the regular (and spent the time to actually twink out their gear), while every couple of weeks we saw a new 59 DK come brazenly in to blow up games, and die so quickly (over and over) that they promptly left the game and the bracket.

DKs were strong at 59, but you had to put in the time to gear them out like any other bracket. Otherwise, the high burst at 59 evaporated you in a global or two.
thats interesting

now, ive never actually played 59s at all so there's that, but from my hearsay™ it was a really lopsided bracket w/ gnomes just being the GOAT due to sonic boosters, and gnome DK w/ two of those just being the low-hanging meme, but yea
 
I never really delved into it, but I do remember that tier .5 gear was pretty cool... not sure how effective, but cool.

It's interesting to me cuz you cant get the the level 60 talent so there's more reason to experiment with spreading them out in all the trees. As in ret pally cant get divine storm... that's a pretty huge difference compared to 60. DK cant get HB, which seems to strike a bell as limiting (havent even gotten one there yet, dont recall) but the draw for them is surely ease of gearing.

Eventually the DK rush will be gone through so after that if games to pop it could be a fun time... depends on levelers.

Usually does, huh? :haHAA:
 
It's bad enough that humans have thier 2 minute racial while the rest are stuck with 5 minute trinket, but gnomes being able to use sonic boosters and noise machine really kills motivation to play a horde 59.

So my 59 that I shelved at the start of tbc remains shelved. I'm not super optimistic about the the future perspective once the dks are gone either. Most twink players will go 79, 19, and 39 in my opinion.
 
Oh yeah werent you the one that basically ran those nights?

I did a little promotion for 59s, but most of my forum promotion went toward the midbrackets (59 and up were considered the upper brackets at the time).

I remember someone figured out how to force an AV queue with a 10v10 and we had a brawl in the field of strife till the resources ran out lol

Totally forgot about that -- good memory!

Most of us had zg sets and dungeon sets that were pretty powerful from what I remember, so our gear made us pretty beefy. The DK starter gear was comparable, but couldnt carry you in our xp off games. Enchants and engy and stuff (etc) were basically mandatory.

They really were, and we had to gear stam-heavy. One of my favorite stories from wrath twinking exemplified the high requirements for playing in the midbrackets and for 59s:

We were all in Vent (that's right, Ventrilo), and my Horde shammy was in the thick of healing a huge brawl in the mid of WSG. Suddenly, someone shouted, "GRENADE!" For whatever reason, that triggered a pavlovian response and everyone on Horde randomly threw a grenade. Alliance evaporated. We thought the game seized or something, but after a couple of seconds, we realized what happened and died laughing. (Died on the field, because the Alliance respawned and we couldn't keep ourselves together, so they wiped us. Totally worth it.)

For that moment to even be possible, 59s had to have organized games, and everyone had to have leveled engineering to get the good bombs. In Wrath, the higher the bracket, the less of a chance a given twink actually capped their professions. I remember doing an analysis the armory threads at the time, and like 50% of 29s saw capped professions, 33% of 39s, and 25% of 49s capped their professions. But 59s took the numbers over 50%, because engineering was so critical to that bracket.

Who was the warlock back then that basically spammed sapper charges and was damn near unkillable? That dude is the reason I main'd a lock for the next few years, lol!

Good question, 59s had a couple of really strong locks!

now, ive never actually played 59s at all so there's that, but from my hearsay™ it was a really lopsided bracket w/ gnomes just being the GOAT due to sonic boosters, and gnome DK w/ two of those just being the low-hanging meme, but yea

Alliance did have the upper hand for those reasons, but it wasn't enough to make games lopsided, from what I remember. The wrath 59s Wednesday/Sunday schedule actually lasted longer than any of the midbrackets, including 39s, even though 39s got games daily for a while.

Every bracket had some insane grinds. For 59s, it was the ZG gear, ZG enchants (exalted rep by destroying bijous and only applicable to the specific character who reached exalted), 375 engineering, and a 450 gathering profession. Running around Northrend as a 59 to mine cobalt and saronite was a trip.
 

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