we just cleared all of vanilla with people who love the content and just this/last week we added 4 people, ready to raid and progress into TBC come on berry. I know ur better than this i see ur point but there is no need to bash. yes 70s are dying we all know that especially 70 twinks when u moved to warmane but this is a way that we can experience the content without going to a private server which some people cannot lvl on because they do not have the time on and/or do not trust playing b/c they can be taken down this is just a way of getting away from max level and have fun we are not trying to stunt ur guild's growth we are simply a progressive guild going through the content and with 5 ppl kara might be easy but with 10 people in full blues and some purps tk might be hard. this is just my best middle man i can play.