A question regarding level 19 Frost mages.

McBankington

McBankington

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I'm leveling up one right now, and I watched a few videos before making this thread but as a 19 frost mage will I be putting out frost damage or will people just rely on me for CC? I know fire does a lot more damage but Fireball doesn't have an epic slowing effect and takes longer to cast. So basicly my question is: As a frost mage would ?I be doing good enough damage to kill other twinks? (I.E Rogues, shamans)
 
You will probably not be doing too much damage as a frost CC mage at 19. Get the [item=42741]Glyph of Frost Nova[/item] or [item=42752]Glyph of Polymorph[/item] second one is great for CCing whatever you want especially if there is a residual dot or poison on your target, but the first one is also good. Frost mages are great in premades but can also be fun in pugs if you have a FC that knows how to kite. Most rogues and hunters will target you specifically though just because they want to see big crits against your cloth armor.



But really get two gear sets spec into the fireball and frost nova cool down reductions and just change sets depending on what you want to do

[item=42740]Glyph of Fire Blast[/item]

I thought about making a fireblast glass cannon set it would be sweet with this glyph ^
 
Duels will sure be fun; I've had 20+ minute duels vs. multiple CC mages as a rogue. Good luck on yours. =]
 
Grabco said:
You will probably not be doing too much damage as a frost CC mage at 19. Get the [item=42741]Glyph of Frost Nova[/item] or [item=42752]Glyph of Polymorph[/item] second one is great for CCing whatever you want especially if there is a residual dot or poison on your target, but the first one is also good. Frost mages are great in premades but can also be fun in pugs if you have a FC that knows how to kite. Most rogues and hunters will target you specifically though just because they want to see big crits against your cloth armor.



But really get two gear sets spec into the fireball and frost nova cool down reductions and just change sets depending on what you want to do

[item=42740]Glyph of Fire Blast[/item]

I thought about making a fireblast glass cannon set it would be sweet with this glyph ^
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I was considering two sets one as glass cannon and one as CC as well as considering accualy buying dual spec for it. I probably won't really be doing premades because my server is HORRIBLE when it comes to PvP and we only have one twink guild that didn't disband after 3.1 and it's not active whatsoever. Thanks for the answer.
 
I wouldn't do a glass cannon set as frost spec...you can use a really good CC spec and two sets of gear. One for "Pure CC" ( Stam, Int, + Hit), and one that is a bit more for killing (SP, Int, and stam/hit). If you want to do good damge you will need to completly gear/spec/glyph for it, and to be honest in my opinion it isn't a good plan.
 
my main twink at the moment is a 19 mage and this is my input- As a mage you will be doing pure CC, therefore you should get glyph of polymorph as well as glyph of slow fall (minor glyph). The polymorph because it removes the dots and the slow fall because in wsg and even sometimes arena (blades edge) i use a LOT of slow fall...That's actually one thing you should learn to master on your mage is slow falling at the right times (possibly even hotkey it)...Next, as a frost mage, your fights with other classes will have a long duration since your gear isnt meant for damage, i guess you could get a glass canon set for fun but i dont really advise it, it gets very old very fast in my opinion. If you have any quesetions, just PM me, im pretty confident in my knowledge of the 19 mage :]
 
McBankington said:
I was considering two sets one as glass cannon and one as CC as well as considering accualy buying dual spec for it.
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You can't get duel spec before level 40. Because we all know that low levels with duel spec would be sooooo OP. /eyeroll
 
Demøniç said:
You can't get duel spec before level 40. Because we all know that low levels with duel spec would be sooooo OP. /eyeroll
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Awwww

I also meant glass cannon for fire spec people. Also the polymorph one seems good in a pug when everyones grouping together, but I won't be using it since Frost novas causing more damage is AoE CC instead of single target and they can have dots so more damage will be caused while multiple are CCed and I can focus on one, I usualy run alone unless I feel the need to group.
 
Coldzhoulder said:
my main twink at the moment is a 19 mage and this is my input- As a mage you will be doing pure CC, therefore you should get glyph of polymorph as well as glyph of slow fall (minor glyph). The polymorph because it removes the dots and the slow fall because in wsg and even sometimes arena (blades edge) i use a LOT of slow fall...That's actually one thing you should learn to master on your mage is slow falling at the right times (possibly even hotkey it)...Next, as a frost mage, your fights with other classes will have a long duration since your gear isnt meant for damage, i guess you could get a glass canon set for fun but i dont really advise it, it gets very old very fast in my opinion. If you have any quesetions, just PM me, im pretty confident in my knowledge of the 19 mage :]
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hes a scrub
 
whitekush said:
hes a scrub
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That's great.

I face palmed at the slow fall part but whatever.

Edit: Whats the hit cap for 19? Ive only played a 19 rogue before and I never really got into him other then gettign shadowfang life stealing then doing 3-4 BGs and a few arenas to see what my Battle groups like.
 
If your going frost, and having problems getting max frost gear, i got +11 frost to chest and +9 to boots.
 
McBankington said:
I was considering two sets one as glass cannon and one as CC as well as considering accualy buying dual spec for it.
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has the level requirement been lowered?

It was previously 40+
 
Ogsir said:
If your going frost, and having problems getting max frost gear, i got +11 frost to chest and +9 to boots.
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I will be going frost but no thanks on the chants, would prefer health rather a bit of frost damage and I'm not in the mood for a server transfer. Thanks anyways.



Believeit said:
Frost mages usually dont go for frost dmg lol
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This thread has told me so.



Mummified said:
this thread is so full of fail its bursting at the sides.



try looking in the sticky thread
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Already have, it didn't shine much light on my question. It's just gear. Gear is not how much something will hit. I see the high SP but that doesn't include frost bolts base damage.

Your response was full of fail.



Omgimarogue said:
has the level requirement been lowered?

It was previously 40+
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This was already answered.
 
Hi



I did not duelt' all classes in 1n1 cause I always played CC Frostmage in Warsong and nearly always just sheep and run or fb rank 1 and run and often play for the flag... so long matches are waste of time .. exept you really need to do so..but thats what I think and could imagine of :



Classes you can win against(I can) in 1vs1 : Rogue , Warrior (yea just kite ... and make it a long long match..) .. firemages as well as gc arcane mages (they will be simply outmana'd) then maybe Shaman, Druid , Priest (cause I have a LOT of mana...) and Warlocks(big advantage as ud player wotf).

But after all .. if those classes are good geared twinks with sum skill , than it probably will take a LOT of time to kill them.. and you mostly won't have this time in wsg .. (so this is just for Arena and duels..)



Classes you won't win :



HUNTER (they simply dps you .. so I always get some yards more then just the yrd's needed to sheep a hunter.. and try to run to him a little bit close and sheep him (cause he could simply make this slowing shot and go out of range ...))



and a good paladin .. (because you can't frost him .. and so he just will heal up and it will be possible but hard and just 3 or 4 times(not sure now..its late..) sheepable in fight to interrupt heal .. but you can't dps him out

and he will heal up ...same here..just sheep and run or whatever...



btw Priests,Druids,Paladins are classes where I often use Sheep on when they try to heal some comrades..and instantly fireblast



here's a link of my char (talents glyphs..)

The World of Warcraft Armory



usually 3/3 frostbite was my talent specc but perm frost is nice when you are fc and have debuff ( cause of you slow more and you are already slowed of debuff...) and on my rp there is no much premades and not too much twinking guys... so I often get up being FC so whatever ;)



yea hope that helped and see ya

peace out



ps: pm me if you have more questions about the mage class
 
Fine lets break it down.

McBankington said:
I'm leveling up one right now, and I watched a few videos before making this thread but as a 19 frost mage will I be putting out frost damage or will people just rely on me for CC?
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It's a pug do what you want. Filling both rolls is as easy as hitting a damage spell the moment you finish casting CC. Hope that's not too difficult.



I know fire does a lot more damage but Fireball doesn't have an epic slowing effect and takes longer to cast. So basically my question is: As a frost mage, would I be doing enough damage to kill other twinks? (I.E Rogues, shamans)
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At 19 you are a mage, frost or otherwise you do damage as well as CC. Understanding your class should come first. You can fill both rolls at any moment.



This thread is still fail. (This means the responses. Your OP, I'd give a D-)
 
My own experiences with a mage taught me one thing: you are not here for damage. A mage is a premade class, in PUGs your CC is useless because all the retards breaks your sheeps, don't make use of you slowing everyone, and let you die. You can not 1v1 (since 3.10 even good rogues and warriors take you) and your damage output is measly. Arena isn't too bad, a good mage can win most matchups. Fire is a no no for me because I'm an aggressive player and fire needs to be played opportunity based and very evasive.
 
Coldzhoulder said:
my main twink at the moment is a 19 mage and this is my input- As a mage you will be doing pure CC, therefore you should get glyph of polymorph as well as glyph of slow fall (minor glyph). The polymorph because it removes the dots and the slow fall because in wsg and even sometimes arena (blades edge) i use a LOT of slow fall...That's actually one thing you should learn to master on your mage is slow falling at the right times (possibly even hotkey it)...Next, as a frost mage, your fights with other classes will have a long duration since your gear isnt meant for damage, i guess you could get a glass canon set for fun but i dont really advise it, it gets very old very fast in my opinion. If you have any quesetions, just PM me, im pretty confident in my knowledge of the 19 mage :]
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i lold at the slow fall part
 
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