A change in 'bracketmaster' and the long term future of the 39 bracket.

DimeBrew said:
Hey, I'm all for getting rid of 7k ferocious bites. But coming after BM next isn't the answer! After guard is gone, enhanced becomes the best. Then once you make them use daggers them rogue or whatever becomes best. ..no cheapshots! Personally I've dueled fancy and scope on my brewmaster and there slow is way more fucking annoying and pretty much 100% up time.
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Let's put down the slippery slope fallacy and address the immediate concern. Guard. It's scaling is broken at low levels; it makes several other melee specs obsolete. Let's even that playing field by removing that specific ability. Your support as a prominent BM in the bracket is needed for this to work.
 
Donteventrii said:
Let's put down the slippery slope fallacy and address the immediate concern. Guard. It's scaling is broken at low levels; it makes several other melee specs obsolete. Let's even that playing field by removing that specific ability. Your support as a prominent BM in the bracket is needed for this to work.
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When I first qued I wasn't using guard. but with the lack of healers AND the fact that most games alliance had an 1-2enhance AND a feral/ 3 rogues.. I'm willing to adhere to whatever Livingforce and his TC committee decide, but for now I'll be using Guard at my own discretion. I'm sure living will have a lot to say this weekend when he gets back on :)

Also, your first sentence makes no sense. addressing immediate issues? LIKE I SAID, as soon as ferals and guard are gone you're going to have to deal with gaytwinker and his enhance, plus the other enhance that was queing alliance as well. Then, where does it stop? are we going to neuter every class until ele shaman is good???

what melee spec does it make obselete? warrios do a fuck ton of damage, Ret has great CC and bubble!
 
Bottom line is, queing a PROTECTION spec for DPS makes you gay.
 
Shaket said:
Bottom line is, queing a PROTECTION spec for DPS makes you gay.
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lets all play casters and ret pali...have no diversity?

Not hard to sync burst through a guard. Maybe you should be spamming TeamSpeak in your alliance BGs ISO blaming a defensive CD.
 
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DimeBrew said:
When I first qued I wasn't using guard. but with the lack of healers AND the fact that most games alliance had an 1-2enhance AND a feral/ 3 rogues.. I'm willing to adhere to whatever Livingforce and his TC committee decide, but for now I'll be using Guard at my own discretion. I'm sure living will have a lot to say this weekend when he gets back on :)

Also, your first sentence makes no sense. addressing immediate issues? LIKE I SAID, as soon as ferals and guard are gone you're going to have to deal with gaytwinker and his enhance, plus the other enhance that was queing alliance as well. Then, where does it stop? are we going to neuter every class until ele shaman is good???

what melee spec does it make obselete? warrios do a fuck ton of damage, Ret has great CC and bubble!
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The "other" enhance queing is a buddy of mine and his gear was for shit. I do know he was running the toon after games to gear it, but I don't think he really gets how disruptive the class / spec can be. I'll talk to him about it. Maybe we should have a rule about there only being one enhance queing into games on each side? I mean if more than one pops in they can /roll to see who afk's and swaps toons? Or is the communities position to ban them entirely? Also one other point to bring up, the state of Alliance, especially in the 39 public TS. The few games we have had if you look in TS, there are like 30 Horde side and maybe 3-4 of us on Alliance. I plan to make macros spreading the info about the TS server and such. The coordination through most of my games Ally side was absolutely horrible. Also some of you Hordies need to roll some casters. So much melee cleave it's impossible for me to keep anyone up (as healer).
 
kittehstyles is a well known and respectable twink if u upset her i will b forced to take action
 
DimeBrew said:
When I first qued I wasn't using guard. but with the lack of healers AND the fact that most games alliance had an 1-2enhance AND a feral/ 3 rogues... for now I'll be using Guard at my own discretion.
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Stop pretending this is a Horde vs Alliance issue. Every game/night/week is different, and most people have toons on both factions to balance games. "At your own discretion"? You said you first queued with it when you lacked healers and Alliance had an abundance of enhance and feral. Well what about when you yourself in a strong position comp wise with 2-3 heals, an FC, a feral and Rogue... Do you take Guard off your bars?
 
Donteventrii said:
Stop pretending this is a Horde vs Alliance issue. Every game/night/week is different, and most people have toons on both factions to balance games. "At your own discretion"? You said you first queued with it when you lacked healers and Alliance had an abundance of enhance and feral. Well what about when you yourself in a strong position comp wise with 2-3 heals, an FC, a feral and Rogue... Do you take Guard off your bars?
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Ya, I also stopped queing after we won 2 games in a row with a FC and 3 healers. If it's not a faction issue then why was alliance trolling horde chat all night? Why was alliance not afk-ing there ferals and enhance shamans? why was alliance not spamming TS in BG chat? Seems to me your faction has its issue. Apparently you're being crutched/buffed by faction issues but you wanna blame it all on the Brewmaster? Let's Keep pointing out Gaurd and not talk about the Feral and Double Enhance you had queing all night......Or the fact that no horde are here crying how Alliance had 3 healers almost every game to our 1. Is anyone crying about how Moran came in horde chat and raged for 5 minutes until an admin moved him out of the channel?...Like I said, get your Alliance in TS and sync up a burst through Guard. G fucking G crybaby. I don't see REAL teams/premades having issues with Guard.
 
ts had people raging in both alliance and horde and I saw more than one healer in every game i was in for both sides so not sure what games you got in and at one point i saw 2 ferals on horde side towards the end of the night.

this can go back and forth all day.
 
Skrubform said:
ts had people raging in both alliance and horde and I saw more than one healer in every game i was in for both sides so not sure what games you got in and at one point i saw 2 ferals on horde side towards the end of the night.

this can go back and forth all day.
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this is not accurate. we had 1 healer for the first 3 games.
 
I will get a different gear set and respec my feral.


BUT, comparing enhance to a spec as broken as brewmaster is laughable at best.


Let's look at some facts about brewmaster:

-Can't be kited

-Can't be bursted

-Can't be ignored



Of these three, only the last one is true about enhance. I don't have infinite mobility. I don't have an on-demand 8k shield with no downsides at all. I don't have a spammable slow with no downsides at all WITH A 40 YARD RANGE. I can't run into the enemy team for free. I will be dead in seconds. I don't have infinite get out of jail free cards.



One hunter landing concussive shot is enough to shit on me. I have no answers to that. I have no escapes and no gap closers, and no instant 8k shields. There is nothing I can do against that. If I want to heal myself I have to stop and hard cast.


Brewmaster totally invalidates some specs. There is literally nothing you can do against them.


You can't kite them, you can't focus them, and you can't ignore them.



We already saw 2 brewmasters on horde spam queueing. It killed games pretty quick. How long do you think until there's 3 brewmasters queueing? What about 4 or 5?


Mark my words, brewmasters will soon be the death of this bracket unless something is done. I agree, feral is OP, but trying to say enhance is on the same level as brewmaster is just plain retardedness that you would only expect from a 19 player.
 
listen to the terrible gaytwinker, cuz we all value his opinion so highly. first off everyone needs to stop talking about slows. hunter is just as good at slowing. oh you wanna say how it's AOE, ok sync a kill baddies. Kiting, LOL! I got kited by a million classes. druid form shift, priest feather, enhance root, hunter slow+speed....You can kill a brewmaster through guard. stop blaming a defensive CD it's not a 7K fero bite wich killed me with guard up. It's not a 3K enhance whatever. It's a defensive. Play around it baddies! sync burst.

Only response you will get from me from now on is; Get voice, sync burst.......................
 
BACKPEDDLE is 75% correct. Only having forgotten that you can't stop them from running either. You can't ignore their damage or control. They are often ignored because everyone assumes they're scum and will pop Guard. When other targets back off from pressure, and the BM looks like an option, GUARD. Halfway through Guard, the BM only has to Tiger's Lust and Roll away.

BM itself isn't the problem. Guard is. (Though again, the barrels are broken as well.)
 
Hunter can slow one person at a time, with a cooldown. Barrels slow the entire team, have 3X the duration of Conc shot, no cooldown. It's a complete non-argument, and you're just showing everyone how clueless you are.
[MENTION=7986]Livingforce[/MENTION] apparently you are the only opinion that matters. Please save us.
 
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