Donteventrii
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Anyone make a BIS one yet?
83 Mage
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Donteventrii
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I was thinking this http://chardev.org/?profile=243540
Oliks
Check it!
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Donteventrii
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I gain 40000 HP, 25000 mana, 2% Crit, 1600 Spell Power, 9 Mastery rating (+22.5% increased damage vs frozen targets), a 3% hit differential vs 80s, 3 extra arcane resistance, Ring of Frost, Frostfire Orb, 3 talent points, higher base damage from spells.
I lose about 9% Haste, and 29% Resil. That 29% resil is easily negated by a 100% higher health pool.
Where am I going wrong?
I lose about 9% Haste, and 29% Resil. That 29% resil is easily negated by a 100% higher health pool.
Where am I going wrong?
Falkor
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http://us.battle.net...ath/Stif/simple
compare that to your chardev.
ps mana doesnt matter too much since you never really oom
compare that to your chardev.
ps mana doesnt matter too much since you never really oom
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Donteventrii
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A PVE geared Mage with 0 resil and half the health? That's a joke right?
Kirise
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Wow, that does not match up at all with the numbers I got when deciding between an 80 and 83 shammy (the jury's still out on that one). I'm looking at an across-the-board 56% drop in secondary stats at 83 compared to 80, including haste, mastery and resilience. I think that's where one of us is going wrong. From where did you get the 9% haste loss and 29% resil loss?
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Donteventrii
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Nirise, are you using the same gear at 84/83 as you would be at 80? I chose to use all ilevel 333 Cata gear.
Kirise
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Ah, good point. All ilevel 333 restores about 26% of those stats across the board for me, so I'm looking at an overall 30% drop in secondary stats. If you optimized for haste and resil, I can see how you got those numbers.
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Donteventrii
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I actually went for Crit. You can't get much resil with 333 gear. Haste was secondary.
Falkor
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since when does health matter when you are a good mage and/or you have healers? same for resil
11 more mastery and the boatloads of crit/haste it has over yours is more than enough
that 40k extra health is still going to disappear just as fast when youre targeted. and you will be targeted more once people catch on youre above 80
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Donteventrii
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Heals don't help when you get globaled.
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Donteventrii
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Show me a Mage with 30% DR from resil, 20% Haste, 30 Mastery, 4k SP, and 27%+ Crit. I just don't see what you are saying adding up. I've seen PVE geared Mages exceed that 83 chardev in Crit, Haste, Mastery. I've seen PVP geared ones exceed in Resil, Crit, and Haste. Both kinds are at least 1300 SP short.
Falkor
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if youre playing right and have cds up you wont get globaled, youll do the globalling
and the 40k hp buffer sounds nice on paper, but there is a reason everyone doesnt roll 83/84 and one of those reasons is they really dont gain that much survivability from the hp alone, especially if solo queing
if you wanna do it, go for it but i would keep a mage 80
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Donteventrii
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I do plan on playing with a healer, if not two. Ice Barrier will absorb 1600+ more damage, Mana Shield and Mage Ward will both absorb 1150 more damage. Larger spell damage associated with higher level, and 1300 more SP