US 49s blew up like nagasaki

[Geekz]

Mother of god, there's a name I haven't seen in years!



And another!

I really want to stay away from this game, but y'all are making it tough.

Hey nerd I miss you.

 

[Kirise]

Alright, I'm *this* close to trying WoW again for a month, and I'm getting my gear farming list back together. I have questions that seem to have differing answers at the moment, so I wanted to get updates for what I can expect when the prepatch lands (understanding that things may still change).

1) Did the level requirement for the 5% stat bonus go back to level 50 e.g. can my shammy wear cloth and not lose a ton of stats?
2) Do set bonuses work again in BGs (looking specifically at the Green Dragonscale set)
3) Do all gear stats matter again, or just primary stats?
4) Do gear procs work again in BGs?

Thanks!

 

[Purj]

Alright, I'm *this* close to trying WoW again for a month, and I'm getting my gear farming list back together. I have questions that seem to have differing answers at the moment, so I wanted to get updates for what I can expect when the prepatch lands (understanding that things may still change).

1) Did the level requirement for the 5% stat bonus go back to level 50 e.g. can my shammy wear cloth and not lose a ton of stats?
2) Do set bonuses work again in BGs (looking specifically at the Green Dragonscale set)
3) Do all gear stats matter again, or just primary stats?
4) Do gear procs work again in BGs?

Thanks!

Not yet, but yes to all of the above in a few weeks when 8.0 comes out.

 

[Tzvetan]

ITT, Purj is the coke dealer and Cirise is the recovering addict who needs "just one more."

 

[Stale]

I got a bunch of downscaled epics and rare for this bracket I can copy to the beta.

 

[Dimitri]

Amazing how survs made people run from the brackets.

 

[Blueballuh]

1) Did the level requirement for the 5% stat bonus go back to level 50 e.g. can my shammy wear cloth and not lose a ton of stats?
2) Do set bonuses work again in BGs (looking specifically at the Green Dragonscale set)
3) Do all gear stats matter again, or just primary stats?
4) Do gear procs work again in BGs?

Thanks!

1. Yes its 50 so wear what makes you happy lol
2. They will come bfa prepatch
3. All stats matter
4. Come bfa prepatch they will.

 

[Tzvetan]

Amazing how survs made people run from the brackets.

I don't think "Survs" had anything to do with it. I'd say several other classes are equal or superior; ret and arms immediately come to mind. Most of the people I know who play(ed) 49s left because of stat templates, lack of customization, and not enough competition in the bracket. And now we are coming back because all the things that make XP-Off fun are coming back.

 

[Dimitri]

I don't think "Survs" had anything to do with it. I'd say several other classes are equal or superior; ret and arms immediately come to mind. Most of the people I know who play(ed) 49s left because of stat templates, lack of customization, and not enough competition in the bracket. And now we are coming back because all the things that make XP-Off fun are coming back.

And balance which means survs.

 

[Tzvetan]

There have been much worse instances of imbalance in the 49s bracket. Survival Hunters don't even come close to the levels of imbalance we used to deal with. And people still played through those times of imbalance with aplomb. So if there is, in fact, a current balance issue (and I don't know that there is), it's so far down on the list of reasons not to play as to be a non-issue.

 

[Kirise]

As I'm going through WoWhead to prep my gear shopping list, I came across this aberration. Here's a list of epic mail chest armor:

http://www.wowhead.com/mail-armor/min-level:1/max-level:80/quality:4/slot:5

...Except it's missing this famous piece from BRD:

http://www.wowhead.com/item=11726/savage-gladiator-chain

Did BRD's ring of law change and WoWhead hasn't marked the piece unavailable yet? Or is something else going on with my WoWhead search? I don't care about that piece specifically, but I'm concerned because if WoWhead's searches are missing potential gear, I want to know that.

Next question: do Alterac Valley quests scale now on the PTR? I'm interested in the Cold Forged Hammer, but that previously required level 51, and WoWhead shows no scaling for that item.

Edit: got on the PTR...the quest doesn't scale, sadly.

Thanks!

 

[Tzvetan]

It must just be a bug in the database or something, because it definitely still exists and, to my knowledge, drops.
[doublepost=1530644867,1530644706][/doublepost]I'd recommend using bfa.wowhead.com, which has BFA-updated info on pieces. Here's a search on that site, which shows the full savage gladiator set.

http://bfa.wowhead.com/mail-armor/name:savage/max-req-level:60

 

[Kirise]

I'd recommend using bfa.wowhead.com, which has BFA-updated info on pieces. Here's a search on that site, which shows the full savage gladiator set.

http://bfa.wowhead.com/mail-armor/name:savage/max-req-level:60

You inadvertently found the answer! Why on earth does WoWhead think the piece has an ilvl of 168?

 

[Tzvetan]

You inadvertently found the answer! Why on earth does WoWhead think the piece has an ilvl of 168?

Because it scales up to level 120. Note: there's a sliding scale on the item's page that shows the item's stats based on the level at which your character loots it. Pretty slick tool, actually.

 

[Kirise]

Because it scales up to level 120. Note: there's a sliding scale on the item's page that shows the item's stats based on the level at which your character loots it. Pretty slick tool, actually.

I missed that -- most of the other gear on WoWhead requires that I find the right "scales with level" entry. That's the first one I've seen that just uses a slider.

Edit: looks like a difference between how WoWhead handles BoP and BoE gear.

 

[Blueballuh]

There have been much worse instances of imbalance in the 49s bracket. Survival Hunters don't even come close to the levels of imbalance we used to deal with. And people still played through those times of imbalance with aplomb. So if there is, in fact, a current balance issue (and I don't know that there is), it's so far down on the list of reasons not to play as to be a non-issue.

There are no balance issues in the 49 bracket currently. People will lose in duels classes they are COUNTERED by and complain of imbalance. I lose 90% of the time to good priests as demo because it counters my class. Doesn't mean they are overtuned or broken.

 

[Tzvetan]

I missed that -- most of the other gear on WoWhead requires that I find the right "scales with level" entry. That's the first one I've seen that just uses a slider.

Edit: looks like a difference between how WoWhead handles BoP and BoE gear.

Side note--if the item you're looking at doesn't automatically show the scaling ilvl, click "item versions" just below it and then choose "scales with level" and it will show the scaling version.

 

[Swoops]

Wowhead filters definitely seem to struggle with the new scaling on items. I haven't found a good way to narrow down results as well as you could before with all the duplicates that pop up, kinda have to just know which ones are actually available for your level.

 

[Tzvetan]

There are no balance issues in the 49 bracket currently. People will lose in duels classes they are COUNTERED by and complain of imbalance. I lose 90% of the time to good priests as demo because it counters my class. Doesn't mean they are overtuned or broken.

I agree. I was merely pointing out that people didn't stop playing 49s because of Survival Hunters, because it's simply not the case.

 

[Kirise]

2. They will come bfa prepatch

The Green Dragonscale set bonus isn't working on the PTR. My character sheet says the bonus is activated, but my versatility rating doesn't reflect the addition.