20s f2p twinks are mass afk reporting lvl 29s in the bracket

[Yoshiana]

Correctly I understand? Many years 20-twinks very liked to be overpowered and play in premades only for reskill pugs on a graveyards, but they don't like when 29-twinks farm them, really? Very interested. What happened?

ill explain what happned in dragon flight they did not scale the toons in bgs so you had lvl 20 twinks with 1700-1800 hp and lvl 29 twinks wiht 3400-3700 hp in the same bgs. The 29 twinks basically did 50 percent more damage and had 2x the health of a 20 twink. So the bracket died with 2 hour long que times and no bgs. 20s began having a war with 29 twinks, by mass reporting them in war within, even thou now 20 twinks get scaled to 29 and lose stats such as crit etc haste by 3-4 percent. The gap between 20 twinks and 29s is alot smaller in war within but stillt here is a gap of say 20 percent more damage and 10 percent more health.

20s are now mass reporting 29s to keep them out of bracket now that are finally some ques for bgs going, To prevent what happened in dragonflight to never happen again.

 

[Yoshiana]

trust me i know how retarded 29s are and the people who play them, i'm just saying the fairest this bracket has been was legion

legion was the best the brakcet ever in temrs of different classes being playable.

 

[Yoshiana]

gotta love retail twinks. either speedrunning 20 year old dungeons or vote kicking people out of their already meaningless and dead bracket.

sadly alot of twinks are queing up on multiple accounts say a f2p trail and then vet, to get faster que times, then speed run the dunegon for drops while the other players sturggle to keep up and get no drops from bosses and are sometimes killed by mobs. These stupid actions are what will make blizzard massively nerf twinking when it comes to dungeons or remove the scaling so now gems and enchants become alot weaker, and now twinks can no longer solo dungeons at a good pace.

 

[Yoshiana]

That’s a good question. I don’t know. I don’t think I see any “true trials” that have no idea wtf they are doing in BGs

If I see pure f2p they are knowledgeable and have grinded out the profs and gear for bis or near bis

I think the days of totally clueless trial players are done. These players might exist. But they aren’t making it to BGs imo

i agree years ago when they had the f2p trial capped at lvl 20 back in 2010 most of the players where folks who were young and didnt have alot of money. To them being capped at 20 was the game to them, As you can do dungeons and pvp in bgs with 3-4 minute bg ques. Plus no crazy raid mechanics to lagg low end pcs. They would do dunegons to get gear then go into bgs to have a chance in pvp, because back then the only real threat you had was lvl 24 shadow priest and few hunters along with frost mages and most 24s rolled in premades. Seeing a lvl 24 was somewhat rare.


Then when the bracket change from20-24 to 20-29 everything changed.

 

[BANKONE]

Seeing a lvl 24 was somewhat rare.

It was so rare to have your night ruined by any one 24 or group of 24 (or later 29s) because of the overall bracket activity

You had f2p twinks, 24 or 29 twinks (abusers) and an overwhelming number of levelers all queuing into the same BGs

There was so much activity that it was extremely hard to have consecutive bad games

 

[Yoshiana]

It was so rare to have your night ruined by any one 24 or group of 24 (or later 29s) because of the overall bracket activity

You had f2p twinks, 24 or 29 twinks (abusers) and an overwhelming number of levelers all queuing into the same BGs

There was so much activity that it was extremely hard to have consecutive bad games

i believe at that time the only way 24s could get into the bgs was to have a lvl 20 f2p trial join the party and then have them que the team in.

 

[BANKONE]

i believe at that time the only way 24s could get into the bgs was to have a lvl 20 f2p trial join the party and then have them que the team in.

That could be true. Idk I never played scummy like that so I couldn’t say otherwise

 

[SPQR]

You had f2p twinks, 24 or 29 twinks (abusers) and an overwhelming number of levelers all queuing into the same BGs

Trials never been with levelers until legion. since then we been thrown in and out of it what 2 times now. But you right.
Sheer activity back in day sustained games every day of the week and the premading scene wasn't this aids.

legion was the best the brakcet ever in temrs of different classes being playable.

While i love legion and not only for getting bis ret legendary from winning a wsg i carried at endgame but for the stat templates and that one glimmer of hope moment on ptr when level 10s could duel level 110 competitively - it had major issues. Healer spec swap queue abuse and sv hunters harpoon at anything from the orbit to finish the entire demographics with axe throw. Looking back at it the bfa was closest to balance we had. that or mop where no one literally died entire bg but that is to each and theirown. Really sad tho since you could fix all of this within a week. Granted imbecile are not in charge.

 

[Masara]

How many of the f2p's that actualy que bgs are spending the required time to farm out proffs to gem socket gear and such though?

So re 29's, this isn't like when 29's xpoff que bug into xpon games this is the 20-29 bracket afterall
I can't believe I have to defend 29s lol

Personally I would like to see pure f2ps get their own bracket so they can live in peace and harmony.

I second your peace and harmony idea.

 

[twoshotmiyagi]

sadly alot of twinks are queing up on multiple accounts say a f2p trail and then vet, to get faster que times, then speed run the dunegon for drops while the other players sturggle to keep up and get no drops from bosses and are sometimes killed by mobs. These stupid actions are what will make blizzard massively nerf twinking when it comes to dungeons or remove the scaling so now gems and enchants become alot weaker, and now twinks can no longer solo dungeons at a good pace.

this ain't got really much to do with f2ps/vets , or even twinks in general. this is just the state of retail wow. leveling experience has suffered from the highest degree of neglect from trash blizz. you can be a lvl13 noob tank in greens and manage to clear the entire dungeon while some lvl74 cant even kill the critter at teh start, left behind.

point was that twinking on retail has become sufficiently braindead and obsolete since the games focus is entirely on endgame and nothing for low levels. garbage oneshotting everywhere. gg blizz, and gg mushbrains.

 

[Bakedaflol]

Is this still going on? I've been making arguments in the D#cord on how the existence of 29-rollers slowly eats up the bracket.
The stagnation of bracket activity has been my main reason for making pro-20 arguments.

But I don't see how this mass-reporting shit that's been going on, is any different.
A salty community sure is better than a dead one

 

[Parity]

Is this still going on? I've been making arguments in the D#cord on how the existence of 29-rollers slowly eats up the bracket.
The stagnation of bracket activity has been my main reason for making pro-20 arguments.

But I don't see how this mass-reporting shit that's been going on, is any different.
A salty community sure is better than a dead one

Well report kicking 29’s wouldn’t kill the bracket, letting them play would

 

[Yoshiana]

Trials never been with levelers until legion. since then we been thrown in and out of it what 2 times now. But you right.
Sheer activity back in day sustained games every day of the week and the premading scene wasn't this aids.

While i love legion and not only for getting bis ret legendary from winning a wsg i carried at endgame but for the stat templates and that one glimmer of hope moment on ptr when level 10s could duel level 110 competitively - it had major issues. Healer spec swap queue abuse and sv hunters harpoon at anything from the orbit to finish the entire demographics with axe throw. Looking back at it the bfa was closest to balance we had. that or mop where no one literally died entire bg but that is to each and theirown. Really sad tho since you could fix all of this within a week. Granted imbecile are not in charge.

mop was insane how op healers where, fights were a grind fest almost like retail. The two expansion lvlers and 20 twinks where in the same bg was i think legion and bfa. legion was the best i think with bfa behind.

 

[Yoshiana]

Well report kicking 29’s wouldn’t kill the bracket, letting them play would

As it stand bg qus are now about 12 minute son fri-sunday and 15 min on weekdays around peak time. The problem is 29 twinks do about 20 percent more damage and have 15 percent more health. That might not seem like alot but f2p 20s are at 3700-3800 hp and 29s are at 4300-4400, Right now holy priest are critting 4200-4400 holy fire damage crit, its basically a 1 shot feast, with only 29 twinks able to withstand 1-2 hits. Damage scalling is insane right noww, aimed shot does 4100-4300 damage crit. Chaos bolt does 4000 damage. So basically hunters and warriors along with holy priest are what dominate the bgs. Warriors put so much pressure on hunters its the only counter to them as casters cant even get cast off vs hunters, because its once scilence shot and aim shot and your dead.
Elmenetal shamans do 1.8k damage lighting bolt crit but resto shamans do even more damage at 2.5k damage crit on lighting bolt.

 

[Parity]

As it stand bg qus are now about 12 minute son fri-sunday and 15 min on weekdays around peak time. The problem is 29 twinks do about 20 percent more damage and have 15 percent more health. That might not seem like alot but f2p 20s are at 3700-3800 hp and 29s are at 4300-4400, Right now holy priest are critting 4200-4400 holy fire damage crit, its basically a 1 shot feast, with only 29 twinks able to withstand 1-2 hits. Damage scalling is insane right noww, aimed shot does 4100-4300 damage crit. Chaos bolt does 4000 damage. So basically hunters and warriors along with holy priest are what dominate the bgs. Warriors put so much pressure on hunters its the only counter to them as casters cant even get cast off vs hunters, because its once scilence shot and aim shot and your dead.
Elmenetal shamans do 1.8k damage lighting bolt crit but resto shamans do even more damage at 2.5k damage crit on lighting bolt.

What’s your point?

 

[Bakedaflol]

Well report kicking 29’s wouldn’t kill the bracket, letting them play would

Risking the accounts of people inside the community definetly won't damage the community
And when the 29s starts to massreport 20s, and you just have a big massreport war going on? Then what?
This started happening last time I played. And It literally drives players on both sides of the argument out.
Doing things this way is the practical equivalent to starting a genocide to obtain peace Historically, it doesn't work.

Like, it's not something you do for the health of the bracket. It's something you do out of frustration. And if a video game can frustrate you to the point where you feel righteous in being wrong, it's time to find better things to do. Because at the end of the day, WoW is also just a game!

 

[twoshotmiyagi]

Well report kicking 29’s wouldn’t kill the bracket, letting them play would

gonna be real with you on this one but there ain't much of a bracket that's left to be killed, no offense.

i mean, lets be real, you don't even have enough to wargame anymore. makes sense since nobody joins the bracket, same player names every weekend, same scripted games, boring restrictions on class/gear (who tf thought green vendor gear was a smart idea?). anways, ain't killin' somethin' that's already dead. get real, move on.

so, to clarify, you really can't afford to (as a community, if you wanna call yourselves that) have this vendetta against 29s since, if anything, they're helping your non-existant weekday queues to actually pop. that's if any of 29s exist anymore, thanks to your kicking shenanigans.

 

[Beerloveer]

And when the 29s starts to massreport 20s, and you just have a big massreport war going on? Then what?

They tried that but failed

 

[Parity]

gonna be real with you on this one but there ain't much of a bracket that's left to be killed, no offense.

i mean, lets be real, you don't even have enough to wargame anymore. makes sense since nobody joins the bracket, same player names every weekend, same scripted games, boring restrictions on class/gear (who tf thought green vendor gear was a smart idea?). anways, ain't killin' somethin' that's already dead. get real, move on.

so, to clarify, you really can't afford to (as a community, if you wanna call yourselves that) have this vendetta against 29s since, if anything, they're helping your non-existant weekday queues to actually pop. that's if any of 29s exist anymore, thanks to your kicking shenanigans.

We can afford to (queues pop enough, and bro.. we’ve literally already said that more 20’s will play when the 29’s are gone) and in any event I’d rather no queues than a spastic 29 oneshotting the entire lobby.

 

[Parity]

Risking the accounts of people inside the community definetly won't damage the community
And when the 29s starts to massreport 20s, and you just have a big massreport war going on? Then what?
This started happening last time I played. And It literally drives players on both sides of the argument out.
Doing things this way is the practical equivalent to starting a genocide to obtain peace Historically, it doesn't work.

Like, it's not something you do for the health of the bracket. It's something you do out of frustration. And if a video game can frustrate you to the point where you feel righteous in being wrong, it's time to find better things to do. Because at the end of the day, WoW is also just a game!

1) To use your analogy, we dont want peace, we want genocide (on the 29’s).

2) It is something we are doing for the health of the bracket (the 29’s are the cancer that’s destroying it).

3) Saying we are wrong is a matter of opinion, I don’t understand how you think 29’s stomping on 20’s is ok??