20s Arena Season Ladder

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Hey everyone, we decided to put together a 2s season to encourage friendly arena games amongst the 20s bracket. We chose 2s because it felt like it had the lowest barrier to entry and the more teams that sign up, the better! If you don’t have a ton of experience with arenas, don’t worry! The season will be based around your own W/L, so you’ll be mainly playing against players of your own skill level throughout the season. It’s a great way to learn more about arenas and get better at them over time with consistent, fun games against players that have experience similar to you. All are welcome, this is meant to be a fun experience for everyone involved - banter is fine, but no toxicity allowed!

We plan to start at the latest in 2 weeks, we are hosting arena wargames from our discord most days, so come and practice in the lead up to the event starting.

Rules:
  • Good sportsmanship and competitive games
  • Restricted classes (No more than 1 per team):
    • Arcane Mage
    • Arms Warrior
    • Discipline Priest
  • Team compositions must be either DPS/DPS or Healer/DPS.

Bans:
  • Items above ilvl 34
  • Grandfathered items and abilities
  • Viking Helm
  • Destiny
  • Sader Swapping
  • All Hunter specs

Unique Class Modifiers (to provide OTPs with a viable spec to play):
  • Druids can use weapons above ilvl34. This allows druids to compete without being severely underpowered. After testing, we found that druids are still on the low end of both damage and healing even with ilvl 49 weapons.
Management and Season Structure:
  • This event is hosted entirely in our discord channel: https://discord.gg/WshJ8uXnUW
  • Players will need the battletag of the opposing party leader, to start the arena wargame type “/wg [battletagID] [mapname]” if random, put a space after the opponents' tag and leave the mapname empty, example:
    "/wg fatolympics nagrand"
  • Rounds will be seeded swiss tournament style, each team will face the closest teams in score each week. This means if you’re less experienced in arena, you’ll be playing against people similar in experience to you. No getting steamrolled by tough players!
  • Each set is BEST out of 5 games / first to 3.
  • Score is based on Set wins primarily and Game wins for tiebreaks.
    • Winning a best of 5 set gives you a point.
    • Losing a best of 5 with a score of 2 to 3 (or 1 to 3) will give you a better tiebreak than a team that loses a set 0 to 3.
  • After each game, the losing team can either choose the next map or change comp, but not both.
  • The first map of each set should be chosen randomly. If the losing team changes comp rather than picking a map, then the map selection should be random as well.
  • All players can change team comp (characters and/or spec) after each best of 5 set, so long as it still follows the above rules.

To compete in this event:
  • Sign up on xpoff by listing your team following the formatting rules list below. Once that’s complete, CLICK HERE to access the discord channel and place a team name in the “teams-and-players” channel. Please put in a team name with up to 3 players’ discordtag, example:
    Team Name
    @Player1
    @Player2
    @Player3
  • Screenshots are required from the winning team after each game. Screenshots should be pasted into the “score-screenshots” channel. If you lose your team’s victory screenshot, your score for that game will not count.
  • Anyone wanting to dispute gear should save a screenshot from the arena showing the character’s hit points and hp altering buffs. Teams found not following the rules will be banned from the server permanently.
  • Streaming games is encouraged, either through discord or twitch, but not required.
-IMPORTANT: While each team is responsible for scheduling their games with their opponent, general playing hours are around 10:00pm EST, Fridays and Saturdays.
 
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Good idea, will definitely look into it.

I would consider adding some things to the ban list:

1. Viking Helm

Does too much for the slot. It's fun as hell - but it's probably too much for a 3v3 ladder at 20. Compared to something like the shaman gladiator helm, which is overpowered but not game defining, the viking helm effectively gives plate wearers an endgame CC spell and gapcloser.

2. BM Hunters

For similar reasons to Survival. They warp games around them in a way that not even the 3-4 S-tier classes do. Along with Surv, they should be in Ban tier. The DPS isn't that great, but the burst during Bestial Wrath outpaces even Arms - without the melee range risk.

3. Staff of the One True Bramble King

For similar reasons that the GF'd ilvl 49 weapons should be banned. It's too much of an advantage, even if not technically grandfathered. You're never going to guarantee perfect balance, but bramble king is a clear mistake by Blizzard that dramatically impacts game quality (on classes that are generally fine without it).

4. Grandfathered Abilities

The only one I can think of is the succubus seduction macro - and I only know of one warlock who has that. It is unfair mainly by principle rather than by effect. Having seduction as a button press is really good, but the bigger issue in my view is that other warlocks simply would not have access to this button. Imagine it determining the outcome of a mirror match.
 
Funny that twink’s wanna have balanced games , go Gf’d go bramble let the world se how damn much twinks Can burst❤️
Feel free to do that in public games. I have ilvl49s on all my toons, but theres no point making games unbalanced.


Good idea, will definitely look into it.

I would consider adding some things to the ban list:
Thanks Bop, added those to the list.

If anyone has any other contributions to the list please let me know. I'm also looking for people who want to help Mod this/ these events. HMU on Discord Fato#3425
 
Im hoping to get all the managing of games etc on discord so please come join the community. Use the chat channels to look for teams if you need to
 
nice, if i wasn’t busy with helping friends gear and pubs i’d try some
 
Just a bit curious how you are going to mod each match?

and can you put that its a 3v3 season somewhere in your title so my brain stops going "FUCK! SOMEONE BEAT ME TO IT"
(I'm planning a 2v2 season in the future but I'm waiting on some third party software to help mod games)
 
Maybe ban gladiator gear? Ie shaman ilvl 35 head. And maybe not bann garrosh gear but only Soveriegn and Timeless tanzanites.
 
I personally don't think the Shaman helm should be banned - but for consistency sake, it makes sense. If you look at it compared to a 3 socket helm, it's actually not all that good. And Rsham is taking a risk not using Circle in every match anyways.
 
Maybe ban gladiator gear? Ie shaman ilvl 35 head. And maybe not bann garrosh gear but only Soveriegn and Timeless tanzanites.
I consider garrosh GFd gear, I would be using some in my sets for example but dont have it
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I personally don't think the Shaman helm should be banned - but for consistency sake, it makes sense. If you look at it compared to a 3 socket helm, it's actually not all that good. And Rsham is taking a risk not using Circle in every match anyways.
Some meta gems are very strong tho, mana proc, cast speed etc. I would say just better to ban it to keep it simple.
 
I'm excited for yet another attempt to generate some organized competitive play to get derailed by people who havent (and wont) sign up suggesting and arguing about theoretical bans on gear.

Just sign up. If you lose to some esoteric, broken ass piece of gear, lets talk about it after this has gotten off the ground for a bit yea?
 

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