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I'm a libertarian. My friend on here, irlsteven is a liberal.
2020 election
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Bop
Remember the Treeline
Big thing to remember about debates, imo, is that no one "wins".
It's just about how people who watch the debate change their perceptions of the candidate, if at all.
There's otherwise zero value to them.
Chops
Soccer Dad
To add to your informal survey: Im a radical leftist (READ MURRAY BOOKCHIN!) and I talk a lot of shit on this forum but I also do make an effort to keep people informed and made a whole (neglected) youtube channel about it. So there's that.
little of both, I guess?
Quackbesteu
Veteran
Debate was exactly as expected if not slightly better
Bias Moderator basically doing Bidens job for him and not asking Biden any difficult questions
Biden saying come on man and trying to be edgy with a few jabs
Dodging every single question asked, lying
Trumps sick one liners and talking about his good economy till the China Virus came along
no surprises really asides joe biden actually showed up and didn't seem completely senile
6.5-7/10
nice country btw
Bias Moderator basically doing Bidens job for him and not asking Biden any difficult questions
Biden saying come on man and trying to be edgy with a few jabs
Dodging every single question asked, lying
Trumps sick one liners and talking about his good economy till the China Virus came along
no surprises really asides joe biden actually showed up and didn't seem completely senile
6.5-7/10
nice country btw
Chops
Soccer Dad
extreme "two old drunk guys bickering over the last hotdog package at a costco" energy, for sure.
still hoping one of them shits themselves on stage ala jerry nadler.
Quackbesteu
Veteran
when I said better I meant slightly more tame, was really expecting Joe to be hyped up on Mountain Dew looking for war
low key surprised he didn't swing for Trump
Chops
Soccer Dad
alas, I dont think a couple of effete septuagenarian fancylads from the east coast are ever going to actually swing on each other.
Goesid
Twink Info Legend
Ye but can you imagine if they did? Like throwing crisps on the pavement.
Chops
Soccer Dad
I would pay good money to watch trump try to throw a punch. Biden strikes me as the type of guy who like... jumped on the tai-bo craze or maybe thought he was Rocky for a couple weeks but Im convinced trumps never thrown a punch.
Nurd
Grandfathered
Well , you know what they say, 2020 aint over YET!
Tom Ganks
Guest
Trump got Covid
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Daltert Moropi
Legend
Hope that Biden and the people in that debate or participated that night didn’t get it neither since the symptoms don’t show up until much later then. We’ll be screwed if that happened to both sides.
Goesid
Twink Info Legend
Didnt even think about that. 2020 plot has been pretty loose though, Trump catching Covid to kill Biden is really stepping it up a notch.
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Veteran
The poll on this thread at least indicates there people on this site smart enough to vote for Trump. Thankful for that lol
Conzil
F2P Legend
How do you guys think Trump getting Covid-19 will effect the election?
Will he get some sympathy votes?
He is playing this strong macho character and telling his voters that Biden is an weak old man. If his symptoms are serious and is needing a ventilator to help him breath during the next week, will it make him look weak and lose him voters?
Will he get some sympathy votes?
He is playing this strong macho character and telling his voters that Biden is an weak old man. If his symptoms are serious and is needing a ventilator to help him breath during the next week, will it make him look weak and lose him voters?
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Daltert Moropi
Legend
Couple of things to think about that poll and as a side-note, I’m just typing this mostly to catalog the information.
- Pretty much anyone here can use this poll (I know some people on here that’s not from the usa that said trump/biden).
- People can pretty much make alt accounts to vote on it (inc. multi-boxers).
- Notice the bottom of the thread (users who have read this thread) that there’s a lot of new accounts in it?
Then during when I’m typing this comment: trump 31, biden 7, tba 4, other 3, and not voting 7
btw: I’m still in tba, just waiting on the 2nd presidential debate to make my final choice.
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Veteran
I don't think people are going to invested enough in this thread to make bot accounts.
Chops
Soccer Dad
Peoples opinions of Trump are more or less baked in at this point. It's part of the benefit/curse of being the incumbent. Biden is pretty well known too, but americans have this stupid idea that politicians will act differently as president than they've acted for 50 years as a senator/VP. So folks are more willing to roll the dice on him.
Which means, what this comes down to is trump getting a solid, predictable 42-45% of the vote, regardless of what he does. The question is will Biden maintain his 50-52% of the vote? And will he get it in the right states (because lol electoral college). Bidens polling average has fluttered a bit more than trumps (though usually in Bidens favor) so at this point, its his election to lose.
Will trump gain sympathy votes? Probably not. Will he lose votes because people realize he's a coddled dandy and not the robust fighter he wants folks to think? Also probably not.
Will Biden lose votes as people see the election as less dire because Trump could die at any minute? Sure. Or because the GOP just lost the majority needed to ram through Amy Barret before the election? Sure. I'd watch his polling averages more than Trumps.
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