19s problem?

stop trolling :( i cry everi tiem

on a more serious note, the azol thing other way around and nope never declined a doable challenge against you, I can't join a premade without players, matchmaking requires 10 players to be able to enter 10vs10, also subbed for SoD so you have the wrong guy here (=============


edit: using articles seems to be too hard for me o_o
 
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From my understanding SR is no longer premading until Warlords of Dreanor, atleast that is what Myrm was told when he was trying to set up a premade

Was this before or after Myrm's false alarm last Saturday?
 
so much guild drama... bottom line is no guild currently has 10 players to premade with all worth their salt & best @ their class, so theres no telling which way any premades at all would go. maybe stop talking about it and actually make some happen so there can be drama based around some games that actually took place on current patch not X amount of patches ago, game is diff now than back then
 
I've given this bracket a try a few times lately and I've seen a lot of problems. Not the problems I am normally QQing about either, you know... hunters, GY Camping, the Mid chop, etc... I have seen some other little things that rubs me wrong. I will list them below in no particular order.
  • Players dogging geared players that aren't BiS, calling them undergeared. I am not one of them, but I tend to inspect those that are being ridiculed and they are typically not so bad that they hurt the team. There are some that are completely undergeared, but most of the time, they aren't that bad. I assume that these people are trying to drive them off to get friends in, but I don't know for sure.
  • Players constantly ragging the team when they aren't doing much themselves. One of the most common people I see doing this posts in 19 bracket posts here on TI quite often.
  • Players coming into a game and leaving just before it starts. Most of the time, it's a well geared, well established player that could have turned the game our direction. Some of the times, that player ends up back in the same game... on the other side.
  • This one doesn't really affect the outcome of the games, but there are still tons of people afking out just before a loss, on both sides. I was in a game late last week that was 10v10... 1 minute before the game ended, it was 3v10.

The GY camping, as long as a flags are being moved, doesn't bother me so much, but I know it does for a handful of people I have talked with,
 
I've given this bracket a try a few times lately and I've seen a lot of problems. Not the problems I am normally QQing about either, you know... hunters, GY Camping, the Mid chop, etc... I have seen some other little things that rubs me wrong. I will list them below in no particular order.
  • Players dogging geared players that aren't BiS, calling them undergeared. I am not one of them, but I tend to inspect those that are being ridiculed and they are typically not so bad that they hurt the team. There are some that are completely undergeared, but most of the time, they aren't that bad. I assume that these people are trying to drive them off to get friends in, but I don't know for sure.
  • Players constantly ragging the team when they aren't doing much themselves. One of the most common people I see doing this posts in 19 bracket posts here on TI quite often.
  • Players coming into a game and leaving just before it starts. Most of the time, it's a well geared, well established player that could have turned the game our direction. Some of the times, that player ends up back in the same game... on the other side.
  • This one doesn't really affect the outcome of the games, but there are still tons of people afking out just before a loss, on both sides. I was in a game late last week that was 10v10... 1 minute before the game ended, it was 3v10.

The GY camping, as long as a flags are being moved, doesn't bother me so much, but I know it does for a handful of people I have talked with,

There are a few players who like basically 80% of there honorkills came from camping the graveyard with a premade lol.

I dont have a problem with it if they end the game fast, as it should be done.. if ur able to GY camp them to the point where they cant move, 3 cap and end the game.

Instead they will camp the setup already proven worse then them, and milk the honor kills. funny how its called honor kills.
 
Was this before or after Myrm's false alarm last Saturday?

It was that night actually when Myrm was told you guys were not going to be premading anymore till WoD. Myrm was trying to reschedule.


On a side note I hit 100k hk just the other night, No farming at all
 
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I've given this bracket a try a few times lately and I've seen a lot of problems. Not the problems I am normally QQing about either, you know... hunters, GY Camping, the Mid chop, etc... I have seen some other little things that rubs me wrong. I will list them below in no particular order.
  • Players dogging geared players that aren't BiS, calling them undergeared. I am not one of them, but I tend to inspect those that are being ridiculed and they are typically not so bad that they hurt the team. There are some that are completely undergeared, but most of the time, they aren't that bad. I assume that these people are trying to drive them off to get friends in, but I don't know for sure.
  • Players constantly ragging the team when they aren't doing much themselves. One of the most common people I see doing this posts in 19 bracket posts here on TI quite often.
  • Players coming into a game and leaving just before it starts. Most of the time, it's a well geared, well established player that could have turned the game our direction. Some of the times, that player ends up back in the same game... on the other side.
  • This one doesn't really affect the outcome of the games, but there are still tons of people afking out just before a loss, on both sides. I was in a game late last week that was 10v10... 1 minute before the game ended, it was 3v10.

The GY camping, as long as a flags are being moved, doesn't bother me so much, but I know it does for a handful of people I have talked with,

Forget calling them undergeared. They are usually group queue'd people and then sync "Report Player Away" so you get insta kick.

Couldn't have said it better though, Drayner.
 
I've given this bracket a try a few times lately and I've seen a lot of problems. Not the problems I am normally QQing about either, you know... hunters, GY Camping, the Mid chop, etc... I have seen some other little things that rubs me wrong. I will list them below in no particular order.
  • Players dogging geared players that aren't BiS, calling them undergeared. I am not one of them, but I tend to inspect those that are being ridiculed and they are typically not so bad that they hurt the team. There are some that are completely undergeared, but most of the time, they aren't that bad. I assume that these people are trying to drive them off to get friends in, but I don't know for sure.
  • Players constantly ragging the team when they aren't doing much themselves. One of the most common people I see doing this posts in 19 bracket posts here on TI quite often.
  • Players coming into a game and leaving just before it starts. Most of the time, it's a well geared, well established player that could have turned the game our direction. Some of the times, that player ends up back in the same game... on the other side.
  • This one doesn't really affect the outcome of the games, but there are still tons of people afking out just before a loss, on both sides. I was in a game late last week that was 10v10... 1 minute before the game ended, it was 3v10.

The GY camping, as long as a flags are being moved, doesn't bother me so much, but I know it does for a handful of people I have talked with,

Yep! i agree 100%, i think the main reason tho is when one team is doing bad, they all go on the opposite faction so they dont get steamrolled the next game which causes games to die down. Unfortunately this happens alot :(
 
Honestly the first few pages of this are disgusting.

You have a veteran player who is looking for information on queue times. The forum talk does not equate to the status of the bracket in game.

First action is to call him "bad".

Wat.

It doesn't matter that he has lead more bis guilds than Pizza has, even counting back when twinking wasn't a walk in the park. It doesn't matter how much activity he has boosted realms to have in the past.

What matters most is this is a player who is looking to get back into 19s.

Your posts support the theory that the few twinkers left do not encourage activity because anyone interested in joining is chewed up and spit out by a gang of synchronized forum warriors.

We don't have an endless supply of noobs who are looking to join 19s like we did in the past. The people who ask to join the bracket are few and far between.

If you ever hope for this bracket to grow out of the 40 people group queuing fotm dps crew, you need to accept new members (even if they've been in the bracket since before you were 10) step down from playing the stupidly op classes (or at least specs) and step down from treating pugs as premades. Solo queue, try a few games without Skype etc.

Also, I defy you to show a single ounce of respect towards someone else for once.

Cheers,
Mocha

(see you in another 3 weeks)
 
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