EU+US 19s Flag Carrying Meta Strategies and Advice?

"Could you help me become a better FC?"

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Voc said:
You're the type of player I don't want on my team. You think if you just sit there and spam heal everything will magically work out? You have no clue how to clash, who to push, when to stopcast and switch heals to dps dps to heals etc. You have to do both dmg and heals but as a team. We had incompetent dps who were outmatched by opposing side and it was obv set up to be in their favor. I didn't do it for any other reason than try to show the dps how to dps. If you were any good you would have noticed me stopping dps second to second when someone needed my heals. I started to dps more when it was clear as day targets would get into killable windows and our dps failed to sieze the moment. They played like they had no enemy nameplates. You just aren't good enough to think outside the box or you were aware the game was set up in their favor, like 90% of "plebmades" are. Rigged
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Lol, keep telling yourself that. You know why I did very little damage that game? Because I had to carry your ass in healing. I had no time to even throw put a dot, and to your claim of throwing out heals, I had you on focus and even when our team was wiping you were still dealing damage. If this is your way of showing how great of a player you are, then you're not doing a very good job of it. Literally no one on this forum has agreed with a single thing you've said. Shouldn't that tell you something? If you think you're so good then come back to 19s like people have challenged you to do. I understand that you're afraid that you cant live up to your so called legacy, but all this talk coming from you is turning you into a more pathetic meme than you already were.
 
@Voc twerk is prob 1 of 3 good 19s to come out of legion, he's miles ahead of u in terms of awareness and multi classing stop trying
 
Twerk2486 said:
Sorry mate, didn't mean to hijack your thread. Glad you're getting some helpful input :)
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All good man, I've gotten a lot of really helpful advice from vets I was hoping to hear from-- and hey, got some interesting convo along the way so there's an upside to everything lol.
 
Twerk2486 said:
Lol, keep telling yourself that. You know why I did very little damage that game? Because I had to carry your ass in healing. I had no time to even throw put a dot, and to your claim of throwing out heals, I had you on focus and even when our team was wiping you were still dealing damage. If this is your way of showing how great of a player you are, then you're not doing a very good job of it. Literally no one on this forum has agreed with a single thing you've said. Shouldn't that tell you something? If you think you're so good then come back to 19s like people have challenged you to do. I understand that you're afraid that you cant live up to your so called legacy, but all this talk coming from you is turning you into a more pathetic meme than you already were.
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Wasn't talking about your dmg but the dps roles. You didn't carry me in anything. Our team was wiping bc other team had better dps by far. Nobody has agreed? You must not be able to view the royal lounge thread. The facts in that thread agree with everything I mentioned. It shows what happens when I'm not in a rigged wargame. Why do I need to do something I've already done?? Get one of your so called well known vets to show you history in royal lounge
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Quack said:
@Voc twerk is prob 1 of 3 good 19s to come out of legion, he's miles ahead of u in terms of awareness and multi classing stop trying
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Nice one. Almost got me to laugh. I've had enough of this back and forth. Royal lounge is holding history of 19s. Nothing you do will change it. Maybe I'll play 19s again someday, but until then you can relive the greatest period of 19s in that thread.
 
Voc said:
Nice one. Almost got me to laugh. I've had enough of this back and forth. Royal lounge is holding history of 19s. Nothing you do will change it. Maybe I'll play 19s again someday, but until then you can relive the greatest period of 19s in that thread.
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oh theres stuff from cata-wod in there? sick dude ty
 
Voc said:
What? Play 19s? There's only two ways I could come back to 19s to play on the level I played on the first bh tauren druid. One is a big meta change from blizzard at max lvl that affects 19s in a way I like, ex. Dmg increase + heal decrease + missile nerf/ blast buff. Another way is if pizza posts on xpoff about 19s. He isn't a better druid than me but I respect him more than any other druid. If he comes here and attempts to take away any facts I brought up, then you will see me in wsg. You other druids aren't worth it. He won't do this bc either knows I'm better or also dislikes current meta. Or doesn't look at xpoff threads in which case one of you can lead him here.

Best of 19s list
1. Voc
2. Pizza
Rest of you aren't good enough to be on my list
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Idiot i wasn't frontlining, you can't frontline as warrior with healers who refuse to heal you/incapable of healing you. I knew how much healer specs could handle in that meta and they refused to listen or simply couldn't handle the pressure. And for arktes "team" we had shit dps and enough heals so yes i did damage to make up for the lack of dmg from the dps players.
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Dodge
 
Voc said:
Wasn't talking about your dmg but the dps roles. You didn't carry me in anything. Our team was wiping bc other team had better dps by far. Nobody has agreed? You must not be able to view the royal lounge thread. The facts in that thread agree with everything I mentioned. It shows what happens when I'm not in a rigged wargame. Why do I need to do something I've already done?? Get one of your so called well known vets to show you history in royal lounge
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Nice one. Almost got me to laugh. I've had enough of this back and forth. Royal lounge is holding history of 19s. Nothing you do will change it. Maybe I'll play 19s again someday, but until then you can relive the greatest period of 19s in that thread.
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I have no interest in reading your little thread in the royal lounge. You're so caught up in your own self-importance that you fail to see what everybody else has been telling you. I'm not sure if that's just from plain stupidity or ignorance or what. It doesn't really matter because the outcome is still the same. If so many people agreed with you in your other thread, where are they now? If you had so many people supporting your claims, why aren't they here defending you? I'll tell you why, because every single person here thinks and knows that you're trash. There's no other argument. You know what you can do though? Prove everyone wrong and show your worth in the gulch, please leave your ego at the door though.
 
Voc said:
You're the type of player I don't want on my team. You think if you just sit there and spam heal everything will magically work out? You have no clue how to clash, who to push, when to stopcast and switch heals to dps dps to heals etc. You have to do both dmg and heals but as a team. We had incompetent dps who were outmatched by opposing side and it was obv set up to be in their favor. I didn't do it for any other reason than try to show the dps how to dps. If you were any good you would have noticed me stopping dps second to second when someone needed my heals. I started to dps more when it was clear as day targets would get into killable windows and our dps failed to sieze the moment. They played like they had no enemy nameplates. You just aren't good enough to think outside the box or you were aware the game was set up in their favor, like 90% of "plebmades" are. Rigged

Thats why in my first wargames in 19s on balance druid I never died, did more dmg than anyone, lead pushes, and initiated efc pushes, they weren't aware I was better so it wasn't taken into account. After a few games they realized I was better and they got exposed in that thread.
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Did you quit RBGs? I didn't q into you once last season. Unless you were dodging.
How does it feel that I play your bracket for a year and get rank 1 when you've been tryharding that shit for years? Makes you feel kinda dumb, doesn't it?
 
Mvq said:
Did you quit RBGs? I didn't q into you once last season. Unless you were dodging.
How does it feel that I play your bracket for a year and get rank 1 when you've been tryharding that shit for years? Makes you feel kinda dumb, doesn't it?
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None of my max lvl rated characters are named voc or anything similar to it. And never tryharded rbgs get good. If you think anyone good tryhards this game your not good. Good job i guess getting that in a dead expansion. Took you a year? Took me less than a week to outplay you in 19s. I keep my max level characters and anything I do on them separate from xpoff characters. Twinks aren't competitive never were never will be and should be kept separate from max lvl. I wouldn't want my max lvl rated m8s to know I participated in these garbsge twink brackets. The fact you even bring up max lvl on twink forums shows your lack of confidence. I'd 100% melt you in a rogue 1v1 at 120 in the arena. Lucky for you I don't have any active subs. Bfa is worst expansion anyways, only reason I flexed on you 19s again is bc it reminds me of the rare good pugs in legion when trash like you premaded and got outplayed by me and some levelers.

Just look at arena forums. You're a bit late to the party m8. I don't even want to begin talking about max lvl here, on a twink forum. When your as good as me you don't need to prove anything to twinks. I've had my fun at max and finessed your twink bracket years ago.
 
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Voc said:
None of my max lvl rated characters are named voc or anything similar to it. And never tryharded rbgs get good. If you think anyone good tryhards this game your not good. Good job i guess getting that in a dead expansion. Took you a year? Took me less than a week to outplay you in 19s. I keep my max level characters and anything I do on them separate from xpoff characters. Twinks aren't competitive never were never will be and should be kept separate from max lvl. I wouldn't want my max lvl rated m8s to know I participated in these garbsge twink brackets. The fact you even bring up max lvl on twink forums shows your lack of confidence. I'd 100% melt you in a rogue 1v1 at 120 in the arena. Lucky for you I don't have any active subs. Bfa is worst expansion anyways, only reason I flexed on you 19s again is bc it reminds me of the rare good pugs in legion when trash like you premaded and got outplayed by me and some levelers.

Just look at arena forums. You're a bit late to the party m8. I don't even want to begin talking about max lvl here, on a twink forum. When your as good as me you don't need to prove anything to twinks. I've had my fun at max and finessed your twink bracket years ago.
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2/10 bad troll
 
kiri said:
Best strat when rolling while playing mid, auto-walk = free 30 sec to finish the roll. BiS strat ^^


Hi Saint, long time no see, how's you my friend ? :)
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All good man, how's you?

Two things... I cleaned up my rid list and may have deleted you :( saintly#2201 if you re sub. Also, there's a demo lock in BLNT that does fine <3
 
The Saint said:
All good man, how's you?

Two things... I cleaned up my rid list and may have deleted you :( saintly#2201 if you re sub. Also, there's a demo lock in BLNT that does fine <3
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I'm good man, bored af but alright :)

DW I'll add you when/if I resub if I dont see u on mine.

Good to hear, never played much around with demo b4, could be interesting tbh, cheers!
 
Have multiple gear sets.

1) Speed set (max movement speed you can get while still retaining other useful stats)
2) 1v1 set (hunter/rogue is on d and you need to teach them who's boss)
3) Mid set (I have flag and now do off-heals in mid etc.)
4) stacks set (shit man, they look to global me so I now have sick HP and vers)
5) max int / all in (sometimes you just gotta do everything yourself)

Check BGE for enemy objective classes and positioning, especially stealthies.

Abuse hots/moonfire/sunfire for combat to avoid saps if rogues are in your game.

When to bear form (assess the situation by being aware of enemies, stacks, their whereabouts and the situation unfolding).

Have a minimap of sorts so that you can easily see what's happening, and where, so that you don't have to press "m" 24/7.

Learn when to drop flag (this can come down to a few things).

Learn to communicate with your team if you need something done specifically, such as help from your stealthies.

Learn to trinket.

Learn to dash.

Learn to shift-jump-kite slows.

Learn when to pick (sometimes it's better to just play for next).

think that's most fundamentals I can think of off the top of my head without too much detail.
 
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ice is now sleeping, he would be very angry if someone commented on this thread and woke him up.
 
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