Cannabis12
The One The Only
All of the damn collusion
19 twink Fantasy Football League
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(Hass)
Wizard of the ramp
Sadly I think there is enough attention on the issue that it will get vetoed no matter what now. I'm not a sneaky trader or looking to take advantage of someone with less knowledge than me. I get this is discount double check Aaron Rodgers.. but I just happen to have Dez's handcuff plus another extremely consistent performer in Alfred Morris that will make Dory's team better.
PPPopper
Legend
So cause you have a surplus of qbs the value goes down? Alfred morris is not a t1 he is a 3-5th round pick. Terrance will goes undrafted in most leagues. He wont do shit even with dez down. Calling them t1 t1 foe arod a top 10 pick i ridic you mad cause its getting veto. Your fantasy knowledge is about as lost as youre on ramp.
Camo
Grandfathered
i disagree with the notion that dory has 3 T1 QBs. Are they 3 startable and were 3 of the top 5 drafted qbs? Yes, but the only tier 1 QBs are Rodgers and Luck. There is a reason why they typically go in the second round and sometimes in the first, whereas Wilson and Peyton typically went in 5th round, with manning falling into the 6th round or 50s half the time. By your logic that you used now and earlier with qbs and with calling Terrance Williams a tier 1 wr, any tier 1 qb is a starting qb or any anyone's position just because you think a player is their best rb or wr does not automatically put them in a Tier 1 cateogry. That logic seems very relative to a person's team and flawed. I agree with PPpoppper
Camo
Grandfathered
I wouldn't be so sure about it getting vetoed to be honest. Sure, Popper and I think its a terrible trade, but two other people have to think its unfair.Based on how you thought everyone drafted in the league and mocked how much they cared for the league by being on auto pick, showing up late, or pre-setting a lineup, I would think that you wouldn't be that worried because according to you if they don't really care enough about the league, then they probably won't care enough to veto the trade or even check. An unfair trade happened in the 39 leagues that went through because people didn't care enough to vote, which is sad but true.
(Hass)
Wizard of the ramp
Aaron Rodgers is higher value to anyone else in the league EXCEPT Dory. Why? Idk maybe because he has three fucking T1 QB's. Get your panties out of a wad and go take some midol.
You're carried by kidneypopper, Heysus shit on you 24/7 as warrior in the glory days of twinknig.. and you're self proclaimed best FFB player in a non cash league. You're exactly like your buddy Rex Ryan, washed up living in the past and hasn't won shit!
Cannabis12
The One The Only
i personally really dont care tbh but i still think dory is getting trade raped
Camo
Grandfathered
If you don't care then vote yes but if you think its trade rape vote no, I'd like to see people vote even if its different than my opinion.
(Hass)
Wizard of the ramp
Bruh, where a QB goes in the draft doesn't at all correlate to their fantasy ranking for that position. The top 5 QBs in FF are Rodgers, Luck, Wilson, Manning and the 5th is probably Roethlisberger. Terrance Williams and Alfred Morris are T1 players for Dory because like I said earlier.. look at his WR and RB. Do you think Dory would make this trade if he didn't have Wilson and Manning wasting on the bench? And lets be completely realistic here. Yes Rodgers is one of the best fantasy QB if not the best (depending on the season).. but what separates the best QB from the second best is what.. 5-10 points? If he has three QB's all more than capable of scoring at least 20 points week in and week out, but has his WR and RB's all barely scoring at all.. what is the "value" in that?
(Hass)
Wizard of the ramp
Don't veto I'll trade you Rodgers right after I get him to make ppopper pop a blood vessel.. self proclaimed best FFB player in non cash league lol!
Camo
Grandfathered
Just because morris becomes his #1 rb, and Williams becomes a slight upgrade over sammy watkins doens't make it worthwhile. "Yes Rodgers is one of the best fantasy QB if not the best (depending on the season).. but what separates the best QB from the second best is what.. 5-10 points?" Hence why I said the top 2 QBs because there is a siginifcant difference between Rodgers and Luck from all the other QB. When you start looking at qbs that range from 4 or 5 to 10 that is when their season total differs by 5-10 or more points Rodgers had 342 points last year, luck had 336. The next closest is Wilson with 312 and Peyton with 307, both of whom will regress this year as Wilson won't get 800 rushing yards and peyton arm is falling off and its showing badly. Wilson and Manning are clearly in the tier 2 of QBs in terms of scoring, not elite but pretty good. You keep claiming that just because a player is the owner's best option at the role, that automatically makes them Tier 1 somehow. Morris is a top 15 back, aka a number 2 running, not a tier 1 rb or elite rb. That idea alone and this sentence "Bruh, where a QB goes in the draft doesn't at all correlate to their fantasy ranking for that position." makes me what to stop responding because it hurts my brain. Sure, someone can draft joe flacco in the 1st or 2nd round but that's an outlier and if thats your argument then I'm not sure what to say honestly. Players are consistently drafted in certain rounds for a reason.
(Hass)
Wizard of the ramp
Reading your wot makes me want to stop responding, please use the quote feature
.Williams is not a slight upgrade over Sammy Watkins. Tyrod Taylor is throwing to Sammy, and Tony Romo is throwing to Williams.. that is enough to invalidate your statement.
Russel Wilson will probably have the same if not more rushing yards because his offense line is worse than last seasons, and the seahawks will rely more on his legs escaping the rush. Oh and by the way his redzone struggles of last season is negated by the addition of Jimmy Graham. Not really understanding your logic on that one.
I just can't get over how you or popper can't grasp this concept: Three QB's all worthy of scoring 20 points a start easily, but you can only start one of them so Dory is at a loss because his WR and RB are utter shit. The issue here seems to be you are looking way to much at what my team is gaining and not what Dory's team is, which is what you admitted after your "rough work week".
Cannabis12
The One The Only
i think a fair trade would be Matt Forte and Terrance Williams for Rodgers
Morris is shit and so is Williams both cap out at a RB2/WR2 at best
Gotta give up at least a RB1 or WR1 for the best Qb in Fantasy
Morris is shit and so is Williams both cap out at a RB2/WR2 at best
Gotta give up at least a RB1 or WR1 for the best Qb in Fantasy
Camo
Grandfathered
Reading your wot makes me want to stop responding, please use the quote feature
Williams is not a slight upgrade over Sammy Watkins. Tyrod Taylor is throwing to Sammy, and Tony Romo is throwing to Williams.. that is enough to invalidate your statement.
Russel Wilson will probably have the same if not more rushing yards because his offense line is worse than last seasons, and the seahawks will rely more on his legs escaping the rush. Oh and by the way his redzone struggles of last season is negated by the addition of Jimmy Graham. Not really understanding your logic on that one.
I just can't get over how you or popper can't grasp this concept: Three QB's all worthy of scoring 20 points a start easily, but you can only start one of them so Dory is at a loss because his WR and RB are utter shit. The issue here seems to be you are looking way to much at what my team is gaining and not what Dory's team is, which is what you admitted after your "rough work week".
My explanation for vetoing the trade was that it was a knee jerk reaction and acting out of haste, for which I have apologized for. My decision to change my mind was not me admitting that I only looked at what your got if that's what you think but because its something the league should decide, not me. It has nothing to do with just what your team is gaining. I look at both sides of the trades, the value of the players exchanged and then needs of each team. Good attempt at getting a little jab at me. I personally think Rodgers is worth more than what dory is getting back. Terrance Williams a top 20 WR at BEST right now because he hasn't done anything and is only bumped up because Dez went down and by top 20 there are arguably 19 more guys better than him and arguably more than 19. Watkins is much more talented than Williams and Tyrod Taylor will make him a # WR 2, if not a #3 wr at the worst. Have you looked at who the texans have throwing to Deandre Hopkins. Ryan Mallet and Brian Hoyer. Receivers with lesser qbs have been fantasy relevant before, some recent examples are Andre Johnson, Josh Gordon, Mike Evans with his qb mess last year etc, Watkins is a beast, there is a reason why he was a top 5 or 6 pick. Russell Wilson will not get 800 rushing yards again or more season, that's just outrageous. I get your point about Graham balancing it out, but it wont be enough to close/keep the gap between Rodgers and Luck espcially with their shaky offense line and Graham having to block a lot more then he did with the Saints.
I think at this point the horse is dead. If it doesn't get vetoed, that's fine because its ultimately up to the league even if I disagree.
Camo
Grandfathered
I agree, something alone those lines would be fair.
Cannabis12
The One The Only
(Hass)
Wizard of the ramp
Dory gets upgraded, upgraded, upgraded.. at WR and RB with players better, better, better.. than any of his current players and he is losing a QB that he has surplus.
It would be one thing if Rodgers was his only good QB.. but he has Manning and Wilson riding the bench.
TLDR; Dory gets BETTER
PPPopper
Legend
Hass... You have no chill dawg. Take it easy. You are getting way too worked up. Literally do not care what you guys do in this league any more because your reasoning and logic is of a 1st grader. I check this league once a week. I have already made more cash for fantasy last week then you will bring in for the month so yall are just flies on the wall. Do your collusion and let the fantasy gods smite you. But I am cheering for you!
You should know better to bring up heysus lol. Beat him in 1v1 and arena KP and I never lost to a warrior combo except for taosky. Vengeance came to the PTR and killed it. Came to Cyclone and killed it. But it's all good buddy Plus at that time I do not even think you were a relevant player or on a ptr so that is all kind of silly to me.
Best of luck though.
You should know better to bring up heysus lol. Beat him in 1v1 and arena KP and I never lost to a warrior combo except for taosky. Vengeance came to the PTR and killed it. Came to Cyclone and killed it. But it's all good buddy
Plus at that time I do not even think you were a relevant player or on a ptr so that is all kind of silly to me. Best of luck though.