19 Rogue Build and Attacks

WSG said:
In 3.2, capping Hit will be easy. BoA Shoulders + BoA Chest = 10 Hit. 11 is the soft cap so either the BoA offhand dagger or the [ITEM]Deviate Scale Belt[/ITEM] will get you there.
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BoA Shoulders + BoA Chest + BoA bow = 11 Hit (hit capped).

This will allow you to use the Belt of the Fang with the Nimble Leather Gloves giving you a nice total of 8 expertise rating which is 15 expertise (-3.75% chance to be dodged or parried). I think that will be the best combination if you have access to BoA gear with patch 3.2.



As for a spec using 2 swords (shadowfang+thrash blade in my case) I would go for 2/2 Imp SS (with glyph) 3/3 Imp Evis and 5/5 DW spec. If you don't have a hard hitting offhand (shafowfang/thrash blade/cruel bard not sure about the bard thou) you might want to change 5/5 DW spec.
 
dezziedc said:
I am using some BOA weapons/gear (shoulders/dagger/bow - although I have serpents and venomstrike as well). Looking at the BOA mace and chest coming in patch 3.2, I'm thinking these will be good upgrades to the gear that is currently considered the best in slot at level 19.
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Interesting Idea with the maces, I've always wanted to see a duel mace rogue at 19. I know there aren't that many out there.
 
Trespasser said:
BoA Shoulders + BoA Chest + BoA bow = 11 Hit (hit capped).

This will allow you to use the Belt of the Fang with the Nimble Leather Gloves giving you a nice total of 8 expertise rating which is 15 expertise (-3.75% chance to be dodged or parried). I think that will be the best combination if you have access to BoA gear with patch 3.2.
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Excellent idea. I won't be going that route, though. Badges are stretched too thin as it is for me to pick up the BoA bow. I actually use the badges to gear my 80s first, BoAs come second. I worry that the bow will be wasted if we see some new BoAs in 3.3 (gloves? head? legs?). The seem to be loading hit on the rogue leather and one more release will put us over the cap.



But you're plan certainly seems optimal for 3.2
 
blueisbetterthanyou said:
why the fuck would anyone use boa bow on a rogue



rofl
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How does 1 hit rating 1 crit rating and 5AP sound when compared with 2agi on a throat piercers.

I just switch to my piercer when I want to kill that rogue that sprints away from me on 25hp as he will be out of range if I use the bow. And after that I switch back.



@WSG

I got no problem with spending badges on my main 80 mage or on my alt 80 priest. I raid a lot so I got a steady badge flow incoming. At the moment I have 65 heroic, 128valor and 11 conquest on my mage (bit low on conquest as I bought a T8.5head) and then I have 60 valor and 17 conquest on my priest (seems to be out of heroic).

So when I trade my valor emblems for heroic when the patch releases I have more then enough for the chest and any other items that come out in the following patches.
 
You're so narrow minded Blue, the bow is amazing - wonderful stats. Switch to throat piercer if you need to throw it and don't want to wait 1 second to shoot your bow.



From what I'm hearing about daggers, you guys make it sound like its gimmick and more for fun than actual usefulness? Swords with SS spamming is better for actual damage and that makes sense. Some of you are saying daggers aren't viable because you can't get behind you target - <-THIS seems like you are the ones failing. I have played rogue since release (daggers for a vast majority, other than raiding) and have "mastered" surprise buttsecks techniques of being behind my target...But I guess when I get around to making a rogue, I'll collect swords for actual viability - while daggers are fun for pugs and big numbers? :p
 
I like my bow :3
 
Well you're terrible if you shoot for 5 hours, as I said - switch it out if you're going to whine about it - but to say that 1 hit 1 crit and 5 ap is usless is completely retarded
 
Spooksters said:
Well you're terrible if you shoot for 5 hours, as I said - switch it out if you're going to whine about it - but to say that 1 hit 1 crit and 5 ap is usless is completely retarded
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he isn't saying it's useless.



He is saying it isn't worth losing the ranged bandi interrupt by adding a 1 second cast.
 
Trespasser said:
As for a spec using 2 swords (shadowfang+thrash blade in my case) I would go for 2/2 Imp SS (with glyph) 3/3 Imp Evis and 5/5 DW spec. If you don't have a hard hitting offhand (shafowfang/thrash blade/cruel bard not sure about the bard thou) you might want to change 5/5 DW spec.
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I run the same weapon setup with dual fiery. I've never been a fan of imp DW because I believe its multaplicative and not additive so its only 75% damage from offhand with 5/5. But then when you run your weapon build you sacrifice bonus damage/stats in the offhand for a proc which swings with your main hand(has a chance to crit) and can proc main hand enchants/abilities. Akforty's warsong build would be better for your spec because it allows you to continuously burst the enemy, which is what your weapon setup is going for.
 
and so is throwing arrows at someone for 5 hours too...



Its all a matter of personal preference on what you have for your ranged weapon.



I personally prefer the BoP cross bow that I get from a quest reward from the alliance side with +1 stam / +1 agi, and I always have throat piercers and a billion other weapons in my bags.
 
If I'm chasing EFC and have them down to 10% health when I'm snared with no cooldowns, I'm going to switch to WC bow and hope for a proc/crit. It often does.



Throat Piercers aren't really for damage. They're for stats and fast interrupts.
 
Rayu said:
Ok I have to go to work soon so quick reply, will go into detail later:



1. No dagger builds are viable for any serious rogue.

2. There is none, nor does PvP imo use any rotations, it's too much dependant on PvP situations.

3. Use a slow OH, don't switch weapons ever.



Weapons, go for SF/CB Dual LS.
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WTF, Id roll you if your actually using your own advice.
 
OMG who say ambush/backstab rogue sucks ?? Its overpower in arena and wsg you have like 60% crit change your backstab and you can crit all the time 280+ its overpower huh ?
 
Aukko said:
OMG who say ambush/backstab rogue sucks ?? Its overpower in arena and wsg you have like 60% crit change your backstab and you can crit all the time 280+ its overpower huh ?
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I do. It's not really overpowered at all. Pretty hilarious to force BS rogues to use sinister strike with their dagger equipped when I meet them.
 
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