19 Druid ownage in wsg

Krookz said:
Seeing as how FC druids pretty much fail 1v1, no, they are not the "ultimate multipurpose twink."





last time i checked when i was in bear form, in fc gear, plus had the flag and it was only 1v1 i poped natures grasp they root, i get away and then cap the flag. or if that person pops insignia i come out of bear form root them do a quick hot and go back into bear form and run... and with the off chance if that person is a human i would just keep running until i could natures grasp again or w/e.... but i always got away 1v1 and cap the flag



=D





if your talking about a 1v1 fight why would you be in fc gear, its a 1v1 pfft
 
Superhp said:
last time i checked when i was in bear form, in fc gear, plus had the flag and it was only 1v1 i poped natures grasp they root, i get away and then cap the flag. or if that person pops insignia i come out of bear form root them do a quick hot and go back into bear form and run... and with the off chance if that person is a human i would just keep running until i could natures grasp again or w/e.... but i always got away 1v1 and cap the flag



=D





if your talking about a 1v1 fight why would you be in fc gear, its a 1v1 pfft





He is actually talking about a 1v1 fight lol. Not a 1v1 run away and cap (If that is such a thing).
 
even if its a 1v1 you can still change weps so instead of having smites might hammer or whatever just switch to your wep with sp/int chant
 
mickyhaynes said:
even if its a 1v1 you can still change weps so instead of having smites might hammer or whatever just switch to your wep with sp/int chant



Not sure why a druid would have "smites mighty hammer" to begin with. I don't think he's just referring to the weapon that you're holding though - I think "fc druid" refers to a character as a whole. You need natural shapeshifter to fc as a druid, but if you use your talent points to get it you no longer have that quick wrath option so even switching to a sp / int staff isn't going to help you dps well enough to make it worth your while.



I've done shammy / pally / druid I think the order for doingitallness goes like this

shammy (recent upgrades) > pally > druid
 
Boglund said:
I would love to see an AP/Crit stacked druid @ 19. Might not be good, but I always wanted to make one. Anyone have any vids?. Also AP druids has to be the type of twink there are the least of.



I've tried this feral druid idea at 19. Not necessarily Ap/Crit stacked though.

I did however, stack str/stam. The whole 9 yards. You can imagine what gear set i used (pretty much all 'of the bear'). Even had a face smasher with 15str and a medicine pouch. This was all pre leg patch/libram nerf.



I had a very nice amount of AP, but the auto swings weren't doing much. I can't remember how much i was critting for, but i remember it being substantial for a druid at 19. Nothing comparable to a rogue/warrior though.



Also, having to juggle nearly 4 stats around (str/agi/int/sp)was pretty difficult. Shifting in and out + hot's drove you oom too quickly.



However, I didn't explore this toon far enough to the point where i got even decent at playing it. Im sure a very well played druid at 19 can figure this one out and find its viabilities and its flaws. All i know is how to play a mage :(
 
ive always maintained that haste is the stat of choice when making a feral druid since their main prblem is that their only really damaging attack is maul (and possibly swipe) thus haste would mean both better rage generation and mauls more often which swipe as a rage waster. TBH i havent actually tried this but it sounded like the most viable option when i got bored with a calculator.



Anywho, more on topic of the thread, a little bit of anecdotal evidence for you... Yesterday we had a BG 10vs5 in favor of the other side. their team comprised of 50/50 hunters and rogues whereas our team was 1 hunter, 1 rogue and 3 droods. 2 of us druids only joined the game when the Allys score was 2-0 yet we pulled it back and won the game :)



To those of you who say that druids cannot dps, oure mistaken, a druid if specced for wrathspam can deal a fair amount of damage with 1.5 sec guarenteed cast time to a dirt cheap 100-140 noncrit spell along with moonfire, whilst being able to off heal and self heal. the downside to this is that tbh druids have better uses and roots cant hold more than 1 wrath before it breaks, as well asthe fact that they have minimal burst. however they can deal a largish amount of dmg in a situation where they get to hide behind a load of rogues and wars.



To those of you who say they dont enjoy playing druids, thats fair enough but i really enjoy playing mine.



Edit: Even more on topic of the thread... compared to other classes druids make the best FCs, debatably the best healers (better than shammies and pallies anyway, imo) tho they get overtaken by shammies in dmg. Druids have slightly less ultility than shammies imo due to their lack of interupt and purge, however their CC is superior.



Edit2: conclusion; an average druid in WSG thats specced and glyphed for heals can viably heal and FC and CC well, a shaman can also do all these things effectively just not quite as well, however they also shut down healers (especially other droods), purge and dmg. Thus i conclude that shamans are better all round than druids
 

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