19 Class Tier List

[Tollo]

not exactly 100% accurate

why are specs like marks hunter tier 6?

I respect all dedicated 19ers' opinions.
If you have suggestions for edits, please write them clearly (e.g. MM Hunter from 1star @ T6 to 2stars @ T5, etc.) and they will be considered as long as they don't come from a bias.

 

[Laurenti]

Tier 1 looks solid.
As everyone knows I am slightly biased in this opinion, but I will make it anyway. I don't see mistweaver monks on the same level as demo locks/ww/enchance. Arcane is underrated as well considering it is a mage with poly/CS, and it actually does damage. I would put arcane and MW at 4*, MW for the insane healing output, arcane for the utility. Yes a BM hunter is straight damage, but I would still put arcane on the same tier.
Tier 3 - I would include fury war if you are including enhance and WW. Yes crusader carries the class but it is on par if not above single target damage wise.
Tier 6. I'm sorry, marks hunter does not belong in the same tier as fire mage and shadow priest. I have a full haste marks (not bis in any way/shape/form) and I am still more useful than a shadow priest. My $0.02

 

[Pizza]

Solid list. Destruction is better than Demonology though.

 

[Laurenti]

Solid list. Destruction is better than Demonology though.

This too. The burst potential is overlooked a ton.. Chaos Bolt > incinerate > conflag x2 all hitting at the same time is a good bit of damage, even on a level 15. Honestly id switch destro and demo. Or make em both 3.5*. Idk , minor difference tbh Either way new players get a pretty good idea that warlocks are middle of the pack dps

 

[Tom Ganks]

Frosts seem to be one of the few best specs for arena. And very effective against efcs, as well as assisting fcs. Should be minimum t2, just gotta know how to use it.

 

[Tollo]

Solid list. Destruction is better than Demonology though.

I actually had the original list more similar to that haha
Other opinions had me changing it. I will adjust this accordingly.
Thanks, man.

Tier 1 looks solid.
As everyone knows I am slightly biased in this opinion, but I will make it anyway. I don't see mistweaver monks on the same level as demo locks/ww/enchance. Arcane is underrated as well considering it is a mage with poly/CS, and it actually does damage. I would put arcane and MW at 4*, MW for the insane healing output, arcane for the utility. Yes a BM hunter is straight damage, but I would still put arcane on the same tier.
Tier 3 - I would include fury war if you are including enhance and WW. Yes crusader carries the class but it is on par if not above single target damage wise.
Tier 6. I'm sorry, marks hunter does not belong in the same tier as fire mage and shadow priest. I have a full haste marks (not bis in any way/shape/form) and I am still more useful than a shadow priest. My $0.02

Thanks for your input, Neap. Made some adjustments.

Frosts seem to be one of the few best specs for arena. And very effective against efcs, as well as assisting fcs. Should be minimum t2, just gotta know how to use it.

Adjusted

 

[marblea]

funny, i have the exact same list but in reverse.

 

[Srs]

I still kind of don't see how rsham is tier two. It has utility where priest has none. Priest does have great damage, but rsham has armor and mobility and can just run through attackers where a priest has to fight through them to survive (if you get out of position). I guess that's a situation that you would hope wouldn't happen in a premade, but in a pug it could easily happen. I think rsham has a better chance to re-position with it's 150% run speed. Also, it can fc in a pinch, where priest is like the slowest class ever, and can hardly keep up with a druid fc.

Don't get me wrong, I love my priest, but they don't stack well, and they lose a lot of their functionality if you've got 2 rshams on the other team, which like I said before, is a likely healing comp.

I feel like the 4 and 1/2 stars is accurate, but I worry that people will see priest in tier one and assume they are way better than restos, when it's really not the case. To me tier one is your best in slot specs for bgs, and you're going to want a rsham, if not two, in every comp.

 

[#Idiote]

funny, i have the exact same list but in reverse.

Do you play with a blindfold on?

 

[Tollo]

I still kind of don't see how rsham is tier two. It has utility where priest has none. Priest does have great damage, but rsham has armor and mobility and can just run through attackers where a priest has to fight through them to survive (if you get out of position). I guess that's a situation that you would hope wouldn't happen in a premade, but in a pug it could easily happen. I think rsham has a better chance to re-position with it's 150% run speed. Also, it can fc in a pinch, where priest is like the slowest class ever, and can hardly keep up with a druid fc.

Don't get me wrong, I love my priest, but they don't stack well, and they lose a lot of their functionality if you've got 2 rshams on the other team, which like I said before, is a likely healing comp.

I feel like the 4 and 1/2 stars is accurate, but I worry that people will see priest in tier one and assume they are way better than restos, when it's really not the case. To me tier one is your best in slot specs for bgs, and you're going to want a rsham, if not two, in every comp.

Very solid argument. Will adjust it accordingly.

Do you play with a blindfold on?

 

[#Idiote]

Very solid argument. Will adjust it accordingly.

 

[SikTh]

kinda silly question
which class would be better for solo pugs?
im basically the only 19 on my realm, so i wont be doing much premades, im almost done with a resto druid FC gear, but i know that some teams are practicing with their FCs now and i dont wanna mess up anything or get yelled with "OMG DROP FLAG DROP" and i wont be able to FC every match

im in between arms and dic priest, but im not really into a healer spec
maybe a boomkin

 

[Srs]

kinda silly question
which class would be better for solo pugs?
im basically the only 19 on my realm, so i wont be doing much premades, im almost done with a resto druid FC gear, but i know that some teams are practicing with their FCs now and i dont wanna mess up anything or get yelled with "OMG DROP FLAG DROP" and i wont be able to FC every match

im in between arms and dic priest, but im not really into a healer spec
maybe a boomkin

Just play your resto FC if that's what you want. If people want to practice as a team, they can wargame.

 

[Mocha]

I like this thread a lot. Some of it may be up for debate... However, it is a great thread to point newer members to so they can see which classes are more valuable to have on your team than others. I've had several new players asking if they could play firemage or assassination rogue and I've had to explain how at the current meta your team would more than likely benefit by having another class or spec instead of you on those gimped specs.

 

[Tollo]

I like this thread a lot. Some of it may be up for debate... However, it is a great thread to point newer members to so they can see which classes are more valuable to have on your team than others. I've had several new players asking if they could play firemage or assassination rogue and I've had to explain how at the current meta your team would more than likely benefit by having another class or spec instead of you on those gimped specs.

That's what I was goin for
Lmk if there's any changes you think would be appropriate and I will consider adjustments

 

[Tollo]

Bring Up My Post

 

[Eriwen]

Bring Up My Post

how is R druid healing not T2/T3?

 

[Mocha]

how is R druid healing not T2/T3?

If you tunnel healing as resto druid you can produce some sick numbers, however personally I've found that 99% of games that I play as resto druid I need to FC. In the RARE case that theres another FC, I'm usually more utility with some burst damage and some light, light off healing.


You cannot even spam heal on a resto druid like mop hpally style lol. Very low heals...


I'mo it belongs where it is for actual effectiveness in healing. One resto druid cannot keep several players up imo.



Personally the only suggestion I'd make is perhaps BM being top tier but I'm very on the fence about it. It's a good fight where it is currently, but the nasty big damage and the perma CC make me want to see it in tier 1 but that's just my opinion.

 

[Conq]

I'm not sure why anyone would play resto druid in a BG that wasn't also an FC

It's too bad their not valid healers anymore. R druid is one of my favorite specs.

 

[Mocha]

I'm not sure why anyone would play resto druid in a BG that wasn't also an FC

It's too bad their not valid healers anymore. R druid is one of my favorite specs.

I miss viable pallies of any spec lol


And it was cool when ele sham was viable for a few months...


Cool that warriors are top now because they've been pretty meh


Cool that locks are doing well too.