19 Bracket dieing?

The rate of new skilled players coming into the bracket is slowing down. But I don't think the bracket is dying
 
The 19 bracket is fine in Ruin and will always be unless a drastic change is made to the game itself.
 
It's hard to get new players into twinking these days, same people rolling over each other. The truth is, WoW is dying. Very, very, slowly.
 
I think one reaso is for the private server (not saying good or bad), when Blackout acticivi started to went down a bit some people move to it, but now the activity is progresivily decresing and more and more people playing in the private cos that an never playing on retail, when i log on its usually 30-40ppl on,

ppl than before would be playing retail instead. Im not opose to the private or anithing but i just think that what at first was a second place to play while blackout had no games now is a real rason to the decrease of acitivity on retail.
 
Alot of peaple are getting fed up with the way games have been going recently, I know there have always been a large number of hunters but when I que up lately it seems like Im seeing more and more 'new' hunter twinks being made, which isnt a bad thing really because more twinks=more wsg games, however wsg is getting flooded with them, its now become a game of:'whoever gets a fc and 5 or more hunters wins' . Now if you are a premade/arena player this does not really affect you as much, but peaple like me who work all day, and have different scedules arent dependable enough to be able to join a guilds premade team, and are reduced to just logging on when we can and pugging or doing arena. For some reason I auctually enjoy MAKING a twink more than I enjoy playing them nowadays, my typical day of wow consists of me logging on my banker and scanning ah for perfect greens, and cheap boe items, then I usually log onto my rogue and que up for wsg. After a couple of games on my rogue I get pissed off and log on my warrior, then I get bored after a few more games because I like playing my rogue more. Then I log on my hunter and que up for wsg, then I get really bored, and eventually give up for the night and log on my main and farm stuff to make cash, and make chardevs of the next twink I would like to make. To sum it all up I suppose the overal skill level of peaple making twinks nowadays has declined, theres alot of peaple getting into twinking again because they figured out that it auctually isnt dead, and making hunters therefore making pugs boring, and beleave it or not alot of peaple out there auctually ENJOY pugging more than premades or arena, because theres less pressure-Lose a pug and u can just reque and maybe do better next time, lose a premade and your guild gets trolled by baddies who are like: 'Dude lol u lost to soandso'.
 
I think twinking is bound to die when cataclysm is going to be out, people are gonna play cata for the first 3 weeks at least, on their main, and it's going to be the breaking point. Maybe 19 could eventually restart afterward, but every single other bracket that is struggling now is going to die permanently, if it's not already the case today...
 
Stabbedurazz said:
i thanked you because i felt bad u only had 1 post



I thanked him because a majority of what he said is consistent with what I think about the state of PUGs and losers rolling the primary crutch class (hunters). It's one thing if you've had your twink for a long time and you've endured the nerf bats and buffs (ie shammies, pallies, rogues, druids [pre travel form if you had a druid you get mad props]), I will also include hunters in this because there are a few exceptional huntesr that have had their twink as a main twink since day 1 or are just .....exceptional. people that decided to twink for the first time and roll a hunter....gtfo mang and look around to see how a real hunter is supposed to be played.



19 twinks are dying but if they implement XP/kill in xp-on bg's you might see a lot more bad hunters to own soon!
 
I think twinking will pick up again if we keep doing what we always did. Dueling outside org, advertizing for people bored with raiding to roll a twink, encouraging people that already twink to roll in other brackets. Were not dead, buisness is just slow.
 
Yes - I think WoW is dying - good point. However - I'm going to enjoy it while I can - who is going to roll a goblin or worgen twink ?



This guy.
 
In my opinion the WoW twinking community is dying slowly player by player. The thing is we rarley get new players, but frequently we see old players quitting.
 
Duckhunt said:
The truth is, WoW is dying. Very, very, slowly.
Everything living is "slowly" dying. :p

I think all twink brackets (EU) is dying, since we got more people leaving than people joining. We also got very few recuitment way to get new players (new to twinking) to start, the most effective way before was that people saw twinks in BGs and wanted to join the fun, nowdays all rep from BGs we get is bad since goodgeared/"BoA twinks" gank in bgs and/or GY camp.
 
Destroy said:
Wanted to know your opinions on whether the 19 bracket is slowly dieing out?

Also, what the reason for it is.



Not in my opinion, I started a new twink guild 12 weeks ago and have had over 120 level 19 twinks join and play. This past Sunday I had 18 level 19 twinks on at one time and we played 4 premade games across 3 guilds. I don't see it, we got 3 new members in the last 2 days, imo its going great right now.
 
Am glad the US isnt in the same predicament as the EU is in the 19 scene. Im not well known, nor does that bother me. But i have been playing the 19 bracket as a warrior; for a while now, not too sure on the dates but i think a few months pre bc, and i was there, when warriors stacking stam were the new 'thing', and then fc droods, and rouges with the ap stack (ouch!) and the boar pet (lol good times), and many others. None of which deterred me from playing. However, one of the few reasons i decided to take a break from WoW was the infestation of hunters; there came a point where i actually didnt want to queue for wsg; and i just sat on my twink staring at lvl 17s. I only play wow for the twinking scene and as others have said
Im seeing more and more 'new' hunter twinks being made



I dont mind new hunters at all, its just the level of play has worsened as time progressed, a hunter who marks you to keep you on his/her map or to inform others of you; i understand. But when someone marks you as soon as you leave the grave yard and tail you for 4 minutes (i am not joking about this, true story). I managed to crawl to the zerk hut to LoS, heal up only to find he had his buddy hunter set up a picnic table and wait for me, only to then start emoting me.

Sad part is, that this is happening regularly; and i was 100% against /afk'ers in bgs, but now atm i am losing my patience.

Can't blame this entirely on hunters, as Horde's level of play isnt on top game either; but a 8 man hunter team with a druid fcing is actually ridiculous.

Made this post to vent, and i understand many people have different opinions, but am glad to see im not the only one feeling this way. Think the best way to tackle this situation is to stop funding hunters =), or bad ones.

Hopefully i will come back to this, and find out its not dead, so happy wsging all =).
 
i do agree that the 19 bracket may be dieing a little but when cata comes with worgens and goblins people are going to want to make twinks with them because of there racials and with new race combos i think there will be even more twinks. So all we can do is wait and see what happens.
 
Gankshot said:
Alot of peaple are getting fed up with the way games have been going recently, I know there have always been a large number of hunters but when I que up lately it seems like Im seeing more and more 'new' hunter twinks being made, which isnt a bad thing really because more twinks=more wsg games, however wsg is getting flooded with them, its now become a game of:'whoever gets a fc and 5 or more hunters wins' . Now if you are a premade/arena player this does not really affect you as much, but peaple like me who work all day, and have different scedules arent dependable enough to be able to join a guilds premade team, and are reduced to just logging on when we can and pugging or doing arena. For some reason I auctually enjoy MAKING a twink more than I enjoy playing them nowadays, my typical day of wow consists of me logging on my banker and scanning ah for perfect greens, and cheap boe items, then I usually log onto my rogue and que up for wsg. After a couple of games on my rogue I get pissed off and log on my warrior, then I get bored after a few more games because I like playing my rogue more. Then I log on my hunter and que up for wsg, then I get really bored, and eventually give up for the night and log on my main and farm stuff to make cash, and make chardevs of the next twink I would like to make. To sum it all up I suppose the overal skill level of peaple making twinks nowadays has declined, theres alot of peaple getting into twinking again because they figured out that it auctually isnt dead, and making hunters therefore making pugs boring, and beleave it or not alot of peaple out there auctually ENJOY pugging more than premades or arena, because theres less pressure-Lose a pug and u can just reque and maybe do better next time, lose a premade and your guild gets trolled by baddies who are like: 'Dude lol u lost to soandso'.



ROFL wow your going to blame hunter's for the 19 Decline....your retarted no offence :) have a good one"
 
ROFL wow your going to blame hunter's for the 19 Decline....your retarted no offence have a good one"

Made this thread for people to express their opinions, and you just throwing an insult, while somehow squeezing in "no offence" just fuels peoples rage.

Your opinion is worthless, and should leave WoW after you hit puberty.....no offence. (see what i did there=O i so witty.)

But hes not all wrong is he? Your most probably US where this isnt much of a problems, but eu blackout did seem to be undergoing this phase, havent played recently but was in this state when i left, with a few good oldschool twinks also debating to leave.
 

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