US 101's stats are starting to change..

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Honestly I think they're doing this to nerf the damage players are doing at endgame.

Players at the beginning of legion were doing around 200-350k single target dps, now they're more than quadroupled that and we're not even at the final tier yet. The ratio in damage this expansion is rediculous.
 
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on the last update i noticed my avoidance went from 20% live to 15% on PTR.
now with latest update mastery has taken a hit. ive gone from 95% live to 79% on ptr.
Run speed has also taken a hit. its starting..
Rip life as we know It
 
Blizz has made changes that made me quit WoW for various lengths of time. The last time I quit it was for 5 years. The next time I quit it will be for good.

I have never invested so much time and gold into 101 twinking, I'd hate to see Blizz ruin it.
 
Blizz has made changes that made me quit WoW for various lengths of time. The last time I quit it was for 5 years. The next time I quit it will be for good.

I have never invested so much time and gold into 101 twinking, I'd hate to see Blizz ruin it.
Yeah but like anything fun Blizzard will be there to ruin it :/
 
Honestly I think they're doing this to nerf the damage players are doing at endgame.

Players at the beginning of legion were doing around 200-350k single target dps, now they're more than quadroupled that and we're not even at the final tier yet. The ratio in damage this expansion is rediculous.
It's this. They've already done it once in Legion, around Patch 7.1 or maybe 7.2. Twinks will adapt just like we always do.
 
109 master race. So far has exact same stats on ptr (although admittedly those stats weren't impressive to begin with)

  • Get 4 followers, epic / rare follower equip, 700 + ap missions (+500 ap bonus loot) for welfare ap.
  • ilvl 815 warforged timewalking off pieces for max ilvl pvp
  • ilvl 790 relics if you missed out on the 810's.
  • Can easily solo 110 elites such as elite archaeology digsites and broken shore rares (if you need extra garrison resources).
  • Can use all 3 artifacts for when specs get nerfed / buffed.
Although I understand that 109 is really only appealing if you just want to ilvl pvp across 3 different specs. RIP to pure pve twinks :<
 
109 master race. So far has exact same stats on ptr (although admittedly those stats weren't impressive to begin with)
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Although I understand that 109 is really only appealing if you just want to ilvl pvp across 3 different specs. RIP to pure pve twinks :<

If BGs were fun I might be willing to do that. They're more of a chore than anything. Old, day long AVs or wpvp are the only kinds of pvp I enjoy consistently.
 
I guess the question is if we are able to outfit a toon with an eventual lvl 900 collection, will the stat squish matter?
 
I guess the question is if we are able to outfit a toon with an eventual lvl 900 collection, will the stat squish matter?

Relatively yeah. You'd have been that much stronger in this patch than 7.3 with 900 gear.

Many people don't have the reserves to get ilvl 900 gear
 
Oookay, I read this over a few times to make sure there wasn't anything I'm missing ---
but it seems like the only confirmation of this is his 101 shaman losing specifically avoidance and mastery.

Since he pointed to mastery with no mention of the change they're doing, I think this is not a stat deflation in anything other than perhaps tertiary stats. Ele shaman's mastery scaling rate is going down, while the damage the mastery does is going up. This is because at end game, they were capping mastery fairly quickly, and with the next ilvl spike, they'll have to start dodging stats which no one likes doing.

This is only happening to ele specifically, and only affects mastery specifically, which is what our friend noted.

So I don't think this is a "destroy all twinks" patch thankfully, I think our OP was just missing some important information. Tertiary stats specifically seem to be getting a little squish though. Who knows.

Edit: (a little side note) Also, this is cause for rejoicing, fellow Ele twink, because mastery is a phenomenal stat for us, but we cap it out as 101s with just a few pieces of gear. Since the damage is being buffed, this is a direct buff to us, especially when using elemental blast. Awesome stuff! I have an 865 ele twink myself and was very happy when I saw the proposed changes. I hope my information helps you rest easy. :)
 
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So you went from 95% to 79%? So ~17% mastery reduction? How about your other stats like intel, and secondaries? How were they changed (if at all)?

it says in first post what stats are affected. hopefuly this is all they changed but i woudnt count on it. its how the 10's nerfs started 1 stat at a time then boom.
 
it says in first post what stats are affected. hopefuly this is all they changed but i woudnt count on it. its how the 10's nerfs started 1 stat at a time then boom.
Yes, the post does, but it doesn't mean other stats may have dropped and you didn't mention it. Was just curious. I'll keep an eye out for any changes I see on my alts.
 
They overdid themselves with end game scaling again. goddamit blizz

If this has a large effect at 110 I bet there will be a community outrage about feeling nerfed. That's what I'm trying to tell myself at least :(
 

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