Discussion in 'Level 100-109' started by Allstar, Sep 24, 2016.
Hey guys, I was wondering how maybe a fire mage would do in world pvp at 101?
add my blood dk. thanks http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/illidan/bloodtwink/simple
Nice twink you should get the 800s
Add me please http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/deathguard/Раэйн/advanced
Nice 770 wep
Ye, got lucky with blood relic on my last relic reward quest, still i believe it is better to keep a blue one if it gives you a better trait.
You can add my 109 twink rogue, sub. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/tichondrius/Zipir/simple
Wow 807 weapon that's pretty good
I've seen an interesting thing that has been in Wow only since Legion, and I'm sharing it with you.
I used to twink in Mop, and back then, a difference of 100 ilvl between two items meant that the second item was approximately 2.7 times better, it means 2.7 times more stamina, 2.7 times more intellect, AND 2.7 times more secondary stats, as crit, haste and mastery.
But now it has changed, the secondary stats are inscreasing way more slowly.
Let's take and example : I look at Serrine's Maleficient Habit (Head cloth) at ilvl 835 and 845:
835 : 1692 stamina, 1128 intellect, 459 crit and 776 mastery,
845 : 1857 stamina, 1238 intellect, 476 crit and 805 mastery.
Conclusion ? stamina and intellect (primary stats) are inscreased by 9.75%, and crit and mastery (secondary stats) are increased by only 3.74%, almost 3 times less !!!
THIS is why I STRONGLY recommand you to take items with either socket or tertiary stat (leech or speed, because avoidance is pretty much useless). What makes a twink good isn't stamina nor intellect, it's secondary stats, if you want good stamina and intellect, level your character to 110, but if you want good secondary stats, let it at level 101. You can have 30 more ilvl on an item, it's only gonna give you like 100 more secondary stats, less than the 150 given by sockets, and far less than the +500 that we can get from having leech or speed on an item.
Look at my two twinks : Affliction Warlock 805 and Balance Druid 815, then don't have very good ilvl but almost every item has either a socket or leech / speed. My Balance Druid has 35% passive leech, and is almost unkillable thanks to that (unless by stuffed 110's).
Affliction Warlock : http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/culte-de-la-rive-noire/Hykkram/simple
Balance Druid : http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/culte-de-la-rive-noire/Winterleaf/simple
By the way feel free to add my Battletag Hykram#21796 , I'm on Alliance side and I like mainly WPVP and dungeons / raids. We can even go to AP farming ! =)
@Hykram World Epic + Socket and Tertiary is BiS, we know that. Now getting all slots with Socket + Tertiary is going to take a very long time... and/or a ton of Gold.
I'm just saying that you'd rather take a 835 + socket or a 835 + leech than a 850 with nothing. Futhermore, 835 + socket / leech will be a lot cheaper than a 850. On my realm, you can buy 835 + leech for 15k gold, and it's far better than the 850 that I find for about 60k...
Depending on which item we are talking about, sockets are worth +- 15 ilvl on chest / head / legs and +- 25 ilvl and wrist, cloak, and rings. And tertiary stats are even more worth !
Of course 850 + socket > 835 + socket but don't spend all your gold on titanforged items that have no sockets and no tertiary stats.
I see some of you have 835+ total ilvl and it's really good but you won't have more secondary stats than someone with 805 ilvl and sockets, and you will have no tertiary stats.
Well ofc Socket will beat a slightly higher iLvL with no Socket, I myself didn't realize an 835 + Socket > 850 plain, so that's certainly good to know. 835's + Socket or Tertiary are indeed much cheaper (currently) than 850+ anything. I still think that will slowly drop in price (higher iLvL) as People gear up through Nighthold and certainly once Tomb is out and even LFR geared Characters are near 900 iLvL.
The only drawback is that 890+ is still ultra rare so even once the majority of the Active Raiding Characters are 900+ and no longer benefit from an 890 World Epic, I can see the price of those being up there quite a bit, maybe never regularly dropping sub 50K. But in the long run, if I could get full 890+ with Socket and Tertiary for ~50K each I'd be happy.
I also think that part of the reason you see many of our 101/109's with 835 base is availability on home Realm for a reasonable price. Not everyone can afford to make new Characters on other Realms, acquire the Gold needed to buy multiple pcs, level a Character to 10 and then pay $25 to transfer that Character back to their home Realm (cheapest way to do it) with said items in bags/bank. It's also a time thing, it's going to take most of the entirety of this XPac for us to start seeing "BiS" 101/109's, i.e. 890+ with Socket and Tertiary in every slot possible plus HFC Mythic 785 with Socket and Tertiary in whatever slots are leftover. That said, anyone that achieves said gear will be all but invincible at 101.
Still a work in progress but going nicely so far. Just got my first Golden Talent
101 outlaw rogue
I'm Blue aba dee aba die...
my Enhance Shammy http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/tichondrius/Rngzug/simple
w/ 26% LEECH!
Most have sockets too. Ran out of gold though so last few upgrades will have to wait until I farm up some more.
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