10 v 10 underpowered lock pov #newFOTM

Locks always were fotm, just this that bracket lacks hipsters, or they still backpedaling on their hunters ;-)
 
immolate imolate imolate imolate....... nice way to see the damage a lock can pull with that.
 
I just see another lock padding with immolate casting 4 fears in a 20m game. BTW macro lash of pain and take it off auto, drastically increases your burst if you can spam it while you're double conflagging.
 
Brov said:
I just see another lock padding with immolate casting 4 fears in a 20m game. BTW macro lash of pain and take it off auto, drastically increases your burst if you can spam it while you're double conflagging.
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immolate puts up lots of pressure in this bracket and fear range on a lock makes it hard to use in mid fight unless the other team is way overextended, i have no outs for mobility so if i put myself in <30 yard range im a sitting duck way overextended in a midfight

also, if i have their team with immolate dot on them, it gives me pretty much a conc on anyone since conflag does 50% movement debuff on imolated targets

and i have lash of pain macroed into incinerate and conflag, not sure why ur questioning my burst when i had top damage and twice as many kbs as anyone else in the game. may be hard to tell cause i dont use mikscrolling battletext but my pet was using lash of pain whenever i hit my incin/conflag bind and it actually landed probably around 1/4-1/3 of my kbs though it may be hard to tell from a viewer pov casue i dont have my battletext to show where my damage is coming from.

i didnt have problem with my pet not having energy when i bursted so i dont see why i need to have lash of pain off auto cast, lash of pain alone still puts out high damage, its as high as my conflags if not higher
 
You want your succy to be energy starved, unless you're spamming the incinerate macro after the initial cast to continue letting your succy spam lash of pain, that macro is completely worthless. I don't know if you already have this, but I would recommend macros for pet control, your succy would by dying less often. Decent vid overall, title just made me expect more than immolating their whole team and proceeding to incinerate spam.
 
Brov said:
You want your succy to be energy starved, unless you're spamming the incinerate macro after the initial cast to continue letting your succy spam lash of pain, that macro is completely worthless. I don't know if you already have this, but I would recommend macros for pet control, your succy would by dying less often. Decent vid overall, title just made me expect more than immolating their whole team and proceeding to incinerate spam.
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my succy was energy starved, most of the time after incinerate i use conflags if they are up which also have the lash of pain macroed into it. i can press incinerate keybind and even if im stuck on gcd etc or casting, my succubus will use lash of pain, no need to have 2 separate macros raelly

and i completely agree on the pet control. as i said, this was my 2nd game as lock in a competitive non pug scenario, only have like 300 hks regardless but its something im gonna work on to avoid as well as try to keep it from roaming aroudn and sometimes attacking healers in the back


as for the last part, its low level twinks so i have like 2 buttons.

if its an ele shaman, ppl will just say its lightning bolt spam

arc mage ppl will say arcane blast spam

holy paladin ppl will say its flash of light spam

u get the point


edit: im looking at recount and my succubus did more damage then a few of the "dps" on the other team, so in terms of just damage id say it did well. pet control however i agree was terrible but improving it would most likely only improve its damage with it being alive.
 
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asapchips said:
my succy was energy starved, most of the time after incinerate i use conflags if they are up which also have the lash of pain macroed into it. i can press incinerate keybind and even if im stuck on gcd etc or casting, my succubus will use lash of pain, no need to have 2 separate macros raelly

and i completely agree on the pet control. as i said, this was my 2nd game as lock in a competitive non pug scenario, only have like 300 hks regardless but its something im gonna work on to avoid as well as try to keep it from roaming aroudn and sometimes attacking healers in the back


as for the last part, its low level twinks so i have like 2 buttons.

if its an ele shaman, ppl will just say its lightning bolt spam

arc mage ppl will say arcane blast spam

holy paladin ppl will say its flash of light spam

u get the point


edit: im looking at recount and my succubus did more damage then a few of the "dps" on the other team, so in terms of just damage id say it did well. pet control however i agree was terrible but improving it would most likely only improve its damage with it being alive.
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Your pet control really doesn't need that much improvement. I was able to keep your pet up a couple of times.

Basically the issue is that the pet health bar is super low, and it's an easy swap target. Succy has some range on lash, so it may be worth it to just let her max range lash macroed into your abilities (maybe Immo to keep her energy starved, since I doubt Incinerate would).

But yeah, pets are going to die. Just have to keep summoning them - which you were doing.
 
asapchips said:
my succy was energy starved, most of the time after incinerate i use conflags if they are up which also have the lash of pain macroed into it. i can press incinerate keybind and even if im stuck on gcd etc or casting, my succubus will use lash of pain, no need to have 2 separate macros raelly

and i completely agree on the pet control. as i said, this was my 2nd game as lock in a competitive non pug scenario, only have like 300 hks regardless but its something im gonna work on to avoid as well as try to keep it from roaming aroudn and sometimes attacking healers in the back


as for the last part, its low level twinks so i have like 2 buttons.

if its an ele shaman, ppl will just say its lightning bolt spam

arc mage ppl will say arcane blast spam

holy paladin ppl will say its flash of light spam

u get the point


edit: im looking at recount and my succubus did more damage then a few of the "dps" on the other team, so in terms of just damage id say it did well. pet control however i agree was terrible but improving it would most likely only improve its damage with it being alive.
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mind linking your warlocks armory ? ill give it a lookies in a bit and run some dataz to help u out a lil bit.
 
i would go hard and go godfreys+consipirator slippers/merger boots. i think crits kill things in this bracket. you'd be running very little hp though, 1200-1300~
 
alright here is the dataz for warlock

0XrcBfR.png


things that you can do which will increase your EDPS (effective dps after crit haste and everything is factored in)
change to serpent gloves.
change to cloak of sorcerer
upgrade your bracers to mind thrust or ivy cloth . what ever you feel like doing (mtb for more survivability ivy for gc)
stillwaters to garoshes or bronze band of force. garoshes for stam or bbof for gc
if you feel like it drop your pvp trinket for a int trinket but then u run with no trink........ up 2 u
when u get lfh change the garoshes pardon to a lavish jeweld ring and you will still be hit capped.

your imp also provides better over all dps and can attack from ranged so that is also something to consider . you loose burst though. (i guarantee you will do more over all with imp though if thats what your after)

crit boots , crit pants crit rings are all worse then pure int as a destro lock so don't bother. (in terms of effective dps)

good luck and have fun
 
Snowjobs said:
alright here is the dataz for warlock

0XrcBfR.png


things that you can do which will increase your EDPS (effective dps after crit haste and everything is factored in)
change to serpent gloves.
change to cloak of sorcerer
upgrade your bracers to mind thrust or ivy cloth . what ever you feel like doing (mtb for more survivability ivy for gc)
stillwaters to garoshes or bronze band of force. garoshes for stam or bbof for gc
if you feel like it drop your pvp trinket for a int trinket but then u run with no trink........ up 2 u
when u get lfh change the garoshes pardon to a lavish jeweld ring and you will still be hit capped.

your imp also provides better over all dps and can attack from ranged so that is also something to consider . you loose burst though. (i guarantee you will do more over all with imp though if thats what your after)

crit boots , crit pants crit rings are all worse then pure int as a destro lock so don't bother. (in terms of effective dps)

good luck and have fun
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thanks for your help!
 
Snowjobs said:
alright here is the dataz for warlock

0XrcBfR.png


things that you can do which will increase your EDPS (effective dps after crit haste and everything is factored in)
change to serpent gloves.
change to cloak of sorcerer
upgrade your bracers to mind thrust or ivy cloth . what ever you feel like doing (mtb for more survivability ivy for gc)
stillwaters to garoshes or bronze band of force. garoshes for stam or bbof for gc
if you feel like it drop your pvp trinket for a int trinket but then u run with no trink........ up 2 u
when u get lfh change the garoshes pardon to a lavish jeweld ring and you will still be hit capped.

your imp also provides better over all dps and can attack from ranged so that is also something to consider . you loose burst though. (i guarantee you will do more over all with imp though if thats what your after)

crit boots , crit pants crit rings are all worse then pure int as a destro lock so don't bother. (in terms of effective dps)

good luck and have fun
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This is Tact approved. I might have to look into Lavish, that's not bad.

I'm trying to fine tune stuff now, which might be an impossible task tbh. But I had a few games where I ran higher stam and it got me an extra (blink, freeze fireblast crit= killing blow). This happened a few times actually. I eventually died to 300 ticks from Serpent Sting but no shocker there. But I thought that was pretty substantial. It's all situational though, it's hard to predict those perfect opportunities.
 
That was awful i literally want to bench you more often now


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