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Meh, In all honesty, the damage is about the same if you stack strength or Crit or Haste... and even if you go ALL out on those its only SLIGHTLY better than just going versatility... and only if you are just hammering on people that are afk or stupid. In reality Crusader procs are how you...

Can you still get the defending champion and the returning champion... and how hard are they to farm? is that like full on nerd time usage... or can they be gotten by a casual?

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/bleeding-hollow/Jadefire Mist Weaver is fun ... the other two not great... mist weaver does similar damage to wind walker - because ww does not have many damage options at this level - and mist Weaver has much more survivalbility than brewmaster or...

Intelligence does matter... If I just go with regular intelligence on my MistWeaver Heal ticks are like 40... and if I go 250 intelligence they go up to like 58... that is a HUGE difference over the course of a game on all periodic heals. It might not matter as much to a priest because they...

I have a 19 horde shaman I could 29 out... but shamans just make me ill compared to the good classes, so meh.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/bleeding-hollow/Jadefire -Mistweaver Monk

The character sheet on Tence looks pretty good, makes me sad to see all those enchants only give like +1 versatility tho :P

What enchants are you using to get your haste that high?

Maybe, just seems like such a terrible return, its not ever worth enchanting at that point. I agree with a good weapon proc, etc... but its not like old school numbers with +18! critical strike!

Hmmmm... unless I'm missing something all my enchants are like +1-+3 points of intellect... all of that total is making my heals do around 3-5% more - which seems just not worth it compared to an extra 600hp? Is there some old world enchant that is still giving +22 intellect or something?

Kind of a informational post, thoughts, and suggestions Seems reasonable to me that just stacking stamina is the best choice as of right now... full BFA who knows. Stacking critical strike/haste/versatility/primary stats are only contributing to at most a 2-3% increase in the respective...

Stacking anything but Stamina seems weak.

I've asked this about 20 times and everybody just has a different set of "facts" they think they know. Just wait a week and somebody will post a "Best in Slot" thread for BFA and you can just go by that. Asking now is just going to get you a bunch of misleading info. If it truly is just stats...

Well, I guess we just wait to see what the % is, if full twinks are 20%+ better in BFA due to stats won't be worth playing much :p

Have not been really keeping up with all the BiS stuff. I could care less about dueling or any world pvp ganking whatnot... but, for instanced Pvp... In legion a full twink was like 2% (in my opinion) better than just some ass in random items... how will that be in BFA for battle grounds...

And just to clarify what happens if you run dungeons after the launch then open a satchels? do you still get the high item level?

What in general is best, or will be. Is "monkey" like +5+5 stam/agility going to be the best choice or will the item with say crit be better with lower stats? Or more specially what would you stack in BFA for enhancement shaman?

Is the normal level 19 item level going to say at 24-25 and this 56 stuff just gets "ROFL thrown" into the mix? That would just be sad for skill versus gear.

Well I mean what is beta ptr saying, is it stats/item level, or is it just like it is now?

Sorry hard to follow for a non die hard. Where are we at with stats for instanced pvp for BFA... do they matter or is it all item level like it is now, and stats for only world?