[Serious] Legion class changes and further discussion

I see lots of people hyping about sub rogue. Sub has NO snare. Which automatically makes it inferior to Sin rogue imo.

Sin rogue gets shadowstep (superior to sub's shadowstrike as SS does not require stealth) and with the master poisoner talent you get a 70% snare (crippling poison). Not only do you get the best snare in the game but it now has a 30 yard range via the poisoned knife skill. On top of that Sin's resolve increases the best damage enchant (elemental force) by 17%.

Sub rogue just cannot compete with that. The only cool thing about sub is that could travel 60 yards in 1? global given the right situation. Shadowstrike someone 30 yards away, shadowmeld then shadowstrike someone else another 30 yards away.
 
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I don't play monk, so not sure how these changes affect BMs. Can anyone tell me what Legion will do for BMs?
 
I see lots of people hyping about sub rogue. Sub has NO snare. Which automatically makes it inferior to Sin rogue imo.

Sin rogue gets shadowstep (superior to sub's shadowstrike as SS does not require stealth) and with the master poisoner talent you get a 70% snare (crippling poison). Not only do you get the best snare in the game but it now has a 30 yard range via the poisoned knife skill. On top of that Sin's resolve increases the best damage enchant (elemental force) by 17%.

Sub rogue just cannot compete with that. The only cool thing about sub is that could travel 60 yards in 1? global given the right situation. Shadowstrike someone 30 yards away, shadowmeld then shadowstrike someone else another 30 yards away.

Let's hope enchants are nonexistent in pvp instances.
 
The preliminary talent calculator for Legion seems to be on WoWhead. I hope the level requirements for warrior abilities are correct. C-smash at level 18 and a passive that has a chance to have it reset all below level 20. I might drool...
 
Play something else! But Arcane looks pretty strong right now in terms of burst damage.

Well i loved the poly cs combination most out of anything the class had to offer at 20 :p
If i wanted burst dmg i would play one of my locks xd
Ill just stick to gw2 for the time being and ill see what the classes look like when xpac drops :)
 
Spear of Rethu - Item - World of Warcraft

Could be a new heirloom for sv hunts

Kurken Padded Chainmail - Item - World of Warcraft

With hunts and shamans being able to wear mail from lvl1 and warriors and paladins being able to wear plate from 1, it seems like they will update quest rewards as well.
We will have to see what this means once the beta goes live. You either get punished for doing many quests when they are not repeatable in legion or you get the chance get rewards twice off the same quest.
 
For those who have seal of Wrynn, it will get Versatility ...
Seal of Wrynn - Item - World of Warcraft

Some other modified, unknown? items :

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=82877/grasp-of-the-broken-totem

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=132551/dark-shamans-jerkin


http://beta.wowhead.com/item=132739/slither-scale-hauberk ??

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=6332

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=20426

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=20431

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=12996

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=6463

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=12985

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=132554/deadly-serpentine-grips ???

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=132743 ??

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=12977

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=6903

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=6910

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=12987

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=132742 ??

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=2236

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=2567

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=6630

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=3748

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=6461

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=1155

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=3415

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=2271

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=20425

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=20434

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=12989

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=6318

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=6631

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=132553 ???

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=132567 ?

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=132740 ??

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=132555 ???

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=1974

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=14148

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=82881
 
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