Lf premade challengers

[asapoverlord]

Hey If any guild/team/group want to have some 10v10s before WoD hits my friends and I are able to field a team to play whoever wants to stepup - I know actual 10v10s of 24s seem kind of vague with how many of you in this bracket rolled to farm f2ps or the consistency of games but yeah if anyones interested post in this thread kthnx


Rules:
Max of 2 of each class
Max of 4 Healers
Max of 1 hunter
Max of 1 Rogue
Max of 2 stealth classes (rdruids do not count to this)

 

[spewfeel]

I'm not in any guild, but can fill a spot

Spewfèél Prot Warrior / Horde / Blood Furnace

 

[Doomchicken]

Potentially very interested if everyone on your team can manage to turn ON their exp without crying about potentially leveling... YOU WONT!! LMK what times/dates would work best! My btag is Doomchicken#1617. And yo all I do is smash ftps so I can feed my internet ego to make up for my small man parts irl, gawd like get over it I suck at this game so where I lack I make up in my ability to smash undergeared JAHJAHS. Alright, I was kidding, I don't like smashing ftps and my d is longer the the american average so hell to the yus. PCE OUT I like fricken waffles

 

[Doomchicken]

Also to add I forgot to mention that there's for sure a few spots open for the right classes/specs I just can't say exactly what I would need at this point but add my b-tag anyways if you got what it takes gearwise/skillwise/u actually use skype.

 

[asapoverlord]

Potentially very interested if everyone on your team can manage to turn ON their exp without crying about potentially leveling... YOU WONT!! LMK what times/dates would work best! My btag is Doomchicken#1617. And yo all I do is smash ftps so I can feed my internet ego to make up for my small man parts irl, gawd like get over it I suck at this game so where I lack I make up in my ability to smash undergeared JAHJAHS. Alright, I was kidding, I don't like smashing ftps and my d is longer the the american average so hell to the yus. PCE OUT I like fricken waffles

Pretty colorful reply - Don't know why you would assume we would "cry" about turning on our exp but yeah that's not a problem. Date is literally up to you (at least a week in advance is all i ask) seeing how you still need a few key spots I'd rather work around a date/time that works for you so you don't have to scramble to field a team for a date we agreed upon whilst your team was still unfinished.

Anyways yeah if you're serious someone will be contacting you over btag.

 

[Doomchicken]

I don't assume it's just happened before with people being so ignint about it, sounds good. it wont be a problem for me filling these spots over btag as long as you arnt picky about the premade team being same guild/server/etc.Alright well as far as a week in advance goes I can promise you that at the least but at this point (I'm half way across the country heading out to my university for frosh week...) I'd say 2-3 weeks before we can get anything rolling as a heads up just knowing now that I wont be playing wow that much.

 

[asapoverlord]

I don't assume it's just happened before with people being so ignint about it, sounds good. it wont be a problem for me filling these spots over btag as long as you arnt picky about the premade team being same guild/server/etc.Alright well as far as a week in advance goes I can promise you that at the least but at this point (I'm half way across the country heading out to my university for frosh week...) I'd say 2-3 weeks before we can get anything rolling as a heads up just knowing now that I wont be playing wow that much.

As long as your btag team meets the class regulations we don't mind. But yeah we have bracket-wide experiences of teams/people dodging us for various reasons and it gets boring fast so was just kind of confused why you would say that. Anyways hope we can set something up in the upcoming weeks!

To anyone else reading this if you have a team/group of friends/randoms feel free to post in this thread or talk to us - More games the merrier.

 

[asapoverlord]

Bump! Still looking for more games will even consider 7v7's or some casual arenas

 

[asapoverlord]

Bump ~

 

[Lil]

we have bracket-wide experiences of teams/people dodging us for various reasons

No1 has dodged you lol.. Always so full of yourselves. I will gladly get a 5 person team from misha together and pugmade just to open up y'alls eyes. You'll more than likely get 2-3 p2ps on top of your premade but its w/e. Real skill is shown by adapting to your group and trying to work with who you're given instead of just 1 shotting targets being called anyways.

Pretty sure [MENTION=16866]Izac[/MENTION] will gladly help as well

 

[asapoverlord]

No1 has dodged you lol.. Always so full of yourselves. I will gladly get a 5 person team from misha together and pugmade just to open up y'alls eyes. You'll more than likely get 2-3 p2ps on top of your premade but its w/e. Real skill is shown by adapting to your group and trying to work with who you're given instead of just 1 shotting targets being called anyways.

Pretty sure [MENTION=16866]Izac[/MENTION] will gladly help as well

Just going to dissect this post bit by bit.

No1 has dodged you lol..

Ursin,Restopathic/Daddy/Livingforce's team exclusively dodged us in f2p restricted premades

Always so full of yourselves.

Making a thread looking for people to play us comes off as cocky? Well idk what else to say you're the same person who blatantly lied saying we kicked the other F2Ps who signed up for the weekend 10v10s for our own guildies when I personally waited on the marked realms on multiple DKs refreshing the /who 20 for just under an hour to no avail.

I will gladly get a 5 person team from misha together and pugmade just to open up y'alls eyes

If I was to waste my time yet alone anyone else's time on my team to 5v5 que and yolo the pugs I would be reconsidered as a leader let alone sane person in my very own team.


Edit: Oh you mean 5man que into 5man and yolo with the extra 5pugs on each team - Idk i would be up for it but wouldn't prove much due to fact horde are littered with brazilians and alliance is saturated with skillpatch hunters/rogues.

You'll more than likely get 2-3 p2ps on top of your premade but its w/e.

Edit: Yeah I know right If we lost we'd probably blame the pugs the other team got aswell - So lets just sync 10v10s if anything or nothing at all and you can stop trying to call us out

Real skill is shown by adapting to your group and trying to work with who you're given instead of just 1 shotting targets being called anyways

Oh you mean it would be more competitive to play with 5 pugs on each team.

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Anyways long post but feels good clearing the air.

P.S If you were serious about this premade thing sick, Should run double spriests and a fire mage aswell.

Also I'll tell ya this, classes don't matter as much when everyone is f2ps. We had strats worked out and our double spriest fire mage would have beat your stacked team more than likely I can almost promise you that.

Classes do matter in this game. But i mean i could be wrong there could be a hidden reason why I've yet to see a scenario where f2p spriest works outside of the "lol mindflay daze/Mindcontrol into group" Or offers more utility/Presence than practically any other class.

 

[Izac]

Classes do matter in this game. But i mean i could be wrong there could be a hidden reason why I've yet to see a scenario where f2p spriest works outside of the "lol mindflay daze/Mindcontrol into group" Or offers more utility/Presence than practically any other class.

Psychic scream. No other class has an aoe CC like that at this level. Positioning is everything in premades so moving things out of position makes things happen. Nothing like Psychic Scream and DM to get things out of position while taking someone out of the game for the duration of the CC

I still want to run that double spriest 10v10 before psychic scream/DM both get removed at this level in WOD. So Im your guy if you want to try again

 

[asapoverlord]

Psychic scream. No other class has an aoe CC like that at this level. Positioning is everything in premades so moving things out of position makes things happen. Nothing like Psychic Scream and DM to get things out of position while taking someone out of the game for the duration of the CC

I still want to run that double spriest 10v10 before psychic scream/DM both get removed at this level in WOD. So Im your guy if you want to try again

Disc priest has the same CC as a spriest and disc priest would be ran on our team so i just crossed off things both specs have to focus on what makes spriest unique/sought after


+ when i asked around what the deal was if the double spriest was a serious consideration people said it would be used for the CC it offers/would be specced mind-control most likely, Really easy to counter the CC/MC so I'm just skeptical of seeing a scenario in a competitive game a spriest being anything more than a burden.

 

[Izac]

Disc priest has the same CC as a spriest and disc priest would be ran on our team so i just crossed off things both specs have to focus on what makes spriest unique/sought after

Yes obv id love to be disc instead.. but a disc priest takes up a healer spot and they have to stay back and pretty much focus on heals 100% of the time. I know, I tried that already. Spriests can be fully dedicated to their CCs

Edit: Oh you mean 5man que into 5man and yolo with the extra 5pugs on each team - Idk i would be up for it but wouldn't prove much due to fact horde are littered with brazilians and alliance is saturated with skillpatch hunters/rogues.

Edit: Yeah I know right If we lost we'd probably blame the pugs the other team got aswell - So lets just sync 10v10s if anything or nothing at all and you can stop trying to call us out

Oh you mean it would be more competitive to play with 5 pugs on each team.

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Lil is right in the sense that 10v10s take away a lot of the elements that make BGs great

This is an experiment we tried a while back http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f43/f2p-tournament-new-improved-register-here-56430/ - almost caught on but just wasn't enough interest

I still really would like to get 5v5s going. There are a lot of benefits for F2Ps. Queueing will be pretty much just waiting for the first alliance queue pop while horde requeue. Should get in first try a lot of the time. Allows for a lot more games in one night. Also it does add a lot of variety that you can't get in a 10v10. A lot more room for creativity.. base running and kiting rather than just 10 sticking together. Could queue for AB as well

Obviously pugs will matter but the 5 coordinated players on each team make up the majority of what determines who wins. We don't have to take it 100% seriously. I know were all WoW nerds and we love controlled environments with our 10v10s but Id love it if we could just loosen up and allow for a little RNG with pugs

 

[asapoverlord]

Yes obv id love to be disc instead.. but a disc priest takes up a healer spot and they have to stay back and pretty much focus on heals 100% of the time. I know, I tried that already. Spriests can be fully dedicated to their CCs



Lil is right in the sense that 10v10s take away a lot of the elements that make BGs great

This is an experiment we tried a while back http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f43/f2p-tournament-new-improved-register-here-56430/ - almost caught on but just wasn't enough interest

I still really would like to get 5v5s going. There are a lot of benefits for F2Ps. Queueing will be pretty much just waiting for the first alliance queue pop while horde requeue. Should get in first try a lot of the time. Allows for a lot more games in one night. Also it does add a lot of variety that you can't get in a 10v10. A lot more room for creativity.. base running and kiting rather than just 10 sticking together. Could queue for AB as well

Obviously pugs will matter but the 5 coordinated players on each team make up the majority of what determines who wins. We don't have to take it 100% seriously. I know were all WoW nerds and we love controlled environments with our 10v10s but Id love it if we could just loosen up and allow for a little RNG with pugs

Yeah i mean if it was more of a friendly challenge I would have no problem but I would rather not take in any uncontrollable factors which could result in a loss when someone trys to call out "How full of ourselves" we are.


and a CC spriest takes up a dmg spot so you'd lose out on pressure

 

[Izac]

Yeah i mean if it was more of a friendly challenge I would have no problem but I would rather not take in any uncontrollable factors which could result in a loss when someone trys to call out "How full of ourselves" we are.


and a CC spriest takes up a dmg spot so you'd lose out on pressure

cool man. well 5v5 or 10v10s, im up for it. I can start looking for teammates

+ when i asked around what the deal was if the double spriest was a serious consideration people said it would be used for the CC it offers/would be specced mind-control most likely, Really easy to counter the CC/MC so I'm just skeptical of seeing a scenario in a competitive game a spriest being anything more than a burden.

here's a video of my first time playing spriest. izacwow - 10v10 Premade 6/29 Game 1 - Twitch - we didnt win but we did get a lot more kills than them (and we had an enh sham)

don't need as much pressure when your target is out of range of their healers

honestly I dont know if double spriest is gonna work against you guys. but its freaking fun

 

[asapoverlord]

cool man. well 5v5 or 10v10s, im up for it. I can start looking for teammates



here's a video of my first time playing spriest. izacwow - 10v10 Premade 6/29 Game 1 - Twitch - we didnt win but I think DM led to a lot of kills (and we had an enhance sham on our team)

don't need as much pressure when your target is out of range of their healers

honestly I dont know if double spriest is gonna work. but its freaking fun

Yeah i was sent that aswell to see Imo DM is manageable especially with the wide array of counters an organized 10man would have but I've yet to face the x2 spriest wombo combo in a game so its all speculation on my end

 

[Lil]

Just going to dissect this post bit by bit.

Ursin,Restopathic/Daddy/Livingforce's team exclusively dodged us in f2p restricted premades

HB doesn't belong in the F2P bracket nor does he seem to want to be. He's made it clear a few times that he'd much rather play at 19s which I am not saying is wrong or bad but obviously he wouldn't put the effort into making a 10 man that he doesn't really wanna play
Resto/Daddy- haven't these 2 used their P2P chants in 2/3 10v10 games to try and get an edge? Sry but I don't think these 2 are the calliber of people you should face anyways in a 10v10 seeing they can't win a fair fight
Living- He called me out as well but never went anywhere.. Think it's the samething as HB or maybe busy irl.

I wouldn't call any of them a dodge moreso just not worth the time which I will explain in later points

Making a thread looking for people to play us comes off as cocky? Well idk what else to say you're the same person who blatantly lied saying we kicked the other F2Ps who signed up for the weekend 10v10s for our own guildies when I personally waited on the marked realms on multiple DKs refreshing the /who 20 for just under an hour to no avail.

I said selves not self. You seem normal and level headed. Your team of hotheads (2 of which I believe were already banned?) who's played less bgs in this bracket then I can count on 1 hand are the people full of themselves and cocky. Also those people were immediately moved to our premade team not even 2 minutes later so I'm pretty sure they were on just not invited..

If I was to waste my time yet alone anyone else's time on my team to 5v5 que and yolo the pugs I would be reconsidered as a leader let alone sane person in my very own team.

Edit: Oh you mean 5man que into 5man and yolo with the extra 5pugs on each team - Idk i would be up for it but wouldn't prove much due to fact horde are littered with brazilians and alliance is saturated with skillpatch hunters/rogues.

Izac already pointed it out.. It brings diversity around. We've all seen the 10v10 "target ___" *dead* "target ___" *dead* "gj we're so good" bs. It's boring and only thing remotely skillful is the positioning to not get bursted down in half a second. With only 5 people that limits the dmg which limits the deaths which means more time to actually do something to change a game. Plus god knows what the other 5 people would be doing so it gives it an edge. P.S. horde has 2:1 24s and ally has 2:1 hunts. It's a proven fact so don't try and make it sound like it'd be in allies favor.

Edit: Yeah I know right If we lost we'd probably blame the pugs the other team got aswell - So lets just sync 10v10s if anything or nothing at all and you can stop trying to call us out

You mean waste another 3 hours of my life trying to get 4 queues to sync when we could easily have done atleast 5 bgs in that timeframe of 5v5s? No ty I'd much rather kill things and not talk about killing things

Oh you mean it would be more competitive to play with 5 pugs on each team.

Competitive? Maybe not. Fun? Probably . Actually feasible in one sitting? Most definitely

P.S If you were serious about this premade thing sick, Should run double spriests and a fire mage aswell.

Ok? Done. Spriest Spriest Fmage Hunt Rdruid. There's our 5

 

[asapoverlord]

HB doesn't belong in the F2P bracket nor does he seem to want to be. He's made it clear a few times that he'd much rather play at 19s which I am not saying is wrong or bad but obviously he wouldn't put the effort into making a 10 man that he doesn't really wanna play
Resto/Daddy- haven't these 2 used their P2P chants in 2/3 10v10 games to try and get an edge? Sry but I don't think these 2 are the calliber of people you should face anyways in a 10v10 seeing they can't win a fair fight
Living- He called me out as well but never went anywhere.. Think it's the samething as HB or maybe busy irl.

I wouldn't call any of them a dodge moreso just not worth the time which I will explain in later points

those 3 were the only ones i was informed of when i asked around of who to try to organize some competitive games in the f2p bracket.

I said selves not self. You seem normal and level headed. Your team of hotheads (2 of which I believe were already banned?) who's played less bgs in this bracket then I can count on 1 hand are the people full of themselves and cocky. Also those people were immediately moved to our premade team not even 2 minutes later so I'm pretty sure they were on just not invited..

Hmm maybe its how I present myself but I'm just as confident/cocky in our team as the others you know as hotheads, but I try to not be so distasteful when joining a community (thats probably the difference in opinion).
The amount of games played don't really translate to anything relevant each bracket comes down to a set meta comp for the stage/patch wow is in. Or at-least that's what i believe in....

The people who were immediately moved might have been moved too early before we even got to forming due to how much of a mess that whole day was with the last minute boot from the skype chat which is how I hoped to keep a line of communication to organize with those on different realms. But anyways that's in the past so not much use debating over detail.

Izac already pointed it out.. It brings diversity around. We've all seen the 10v10 "target ___" *dead* "target ___" *dead* "gj we're so good" bs. It's boring and only thing remotely skillful is the positioning to not get bursted down in half a second. With only 5 people that limits the dmg which limits the deaths which means more time to actually do something to change a game. Plus god knows what the other 5 people would be doing so it gives it an edge. P.S. horde has 2:1 24s and ally has 2:1 hunts. It's a proven fact so don't try and make it sound like it'd be in allies favor.

Its just not my idea of competitive when a very crucial/deciding factor is entirely randomized.
Are horde 24s suppose to be something to be thankful about? Plus i wasn't trying to make it sound like it would be in allies favor just inferring to the amount of aids that would be had if by a random chance one faction got their 5 pug spots filled with 5 hunters/rogues.

It's boring and only thing remotely skillful is the positioning to not get bursted down in half a second.

Organization/coordination/map awareness/map control/Chopping EFC/being aware of the other teams positioning is all stuff I find fun and a main aspect in 10v10s.

You mean waste another 3 hours of my life trying to get 4 queues to sync when we could easily have done atleast 5 bgs in that time-frame of 5v5s? No ty I'd much rather kill things and not talk about killing things

Quality>Quantity
Having games that have randomized 5/5 pugs on each team would be dreadful - I mean if i really wanted to challenge another f2p 10man I would be making a thread like this in that section, But I didn't - So don't think I would be ecstatic to sync 4/4 just to get some competitive game(s) Its just if I was to entertain the idea of f2p premades it would have to be 4/4 where there wouldn't be a massive liability of the pugs.

 

[Kiri]

HB doesn't belong in the F2P bracket nor does hunters

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