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Well, was worth a try to actually get things back on topic. Thanks again for demonstrating why you guys are having such a hard time getting consistent games.

If anyone wants to participate in building a decent community, feel free to look me up.
 
Let me save you all reading the wall of text.

Translation: hasn't twinked on retail in 4+ years, yet feels obligated to forcibly insert himself in bracket-specific discussions

I weep for your cynicism.

Couldn't stop laughing at this.

Thanks. I figured it'd be pretty attention-getting. Glad to see it worked.
 
It's always the people that arn't very good that make community based threads like this, if you want your opinion to be relevant become relevent in warsong and earn respect from the players who undermine what you're saying it's simple. if you're a poor player your opinion isn't going to be respected
 
It's always the people that arn't very good that make community based threads like this, if you want your opinion to be relevant become relevent in warsong and earn respect from the players who undermine what you're saying it's simple. if you're a poor player your opinion isn't going to be respected

Now it sounds like some getto, if you dont see it yourself now then I dunno. So only respected players in the gulch may spech their mind on this topic guys, its like only family may spech to thee Don;)
 
Now it sounds like some getto, if you dont see it yourself now then I dunno. So only respected players in the gulch may spech their mind on this topic guys, its like only family may spech to thee Don;)

They can speak there minds as much as they want, it just means there opinion will hold no weight to a large populous of players on the forums.
 
The first stage of improvement is self improvement, you guys sound like the US government, the growth of an individual is what supports the bracket.

Thats me done with this thread good luck guys!
 
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It's always the people that arn't very good that make community based threads like this, if you want your opinion to be relevant become relevent in warsong and earn respect from the players who undermine what you're saying it's simple. if you're a poor player your opinion isn't going to be respected

I think respect should be mutual intil reasons for otherwise are shown, and not much about about how good they are.. wouldldnt you agree?
 
I think respect should be mutual intil reasons for otherwise are shown, and not much about about how good they are.. wouldldnt you agree?

They can speak there minds as much as they want, it just means there opinion will hold no weight to a large populous of players on the forums.



key words large populous of players. doesn't matter if i agree with you or not, thats how 19s are.

how about instead of people wasting there time making these threads they improve there gameplay? the higher the caliber of players we have in warsong the better, like i said previously , the individual is the most important part of the bracket.
 
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key words large populous of players. doesn't matter if i agree with you or not, thats how 19s are.

how about instead of people wasting there time making these threads they improve there gameplay? the higher the caliber of players we have in warsong the better, like i said previously , the individual is the most important part of the bracket.
Sorry for making you repeat yourself. Didnt see one of your posts.
I agree people wont listen as much to a person they have no respect for as a person they respect. But I dont think how good they are should count in on this, atleast not in this thread as its not about skills :p. if its a thread about druid skills and a poster with no experience on druid what so ever spech, then I wouldnt take he's words that serius, but not forgranted either.
 
It's always the people that arn't very good that make community based threads like this, if you want your opinion to be relevant become relevent in warsong and earn respect from the players who undermine what you're saying it's simple. if you're a poor player your opinion isn't going to be respected

this attitude as gotten us where exactly?

it just means there opinion will hold no weight to a large populous of players on the forums.

if the populous is so large, why is the bracket struggling more than ever before? if you "leet" players are so numerous, why aren't you getting pops left, right and center?

The first stage of improvement is self improvement,

same with attitude!

the individual is the most important part of the bracket.


but you're encouraging grps? and some of those grp members, are absolutely usless as an individual...

Thats me done with this thread good luck guys!

don't let the door hit you on the way out.
 
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this attitude as gotten us where exactly?



if the populous is so large, why is the bracket struggling more than ever before? if you "leet" players are so numerous, why aren't you getting pops left, right and center?



same with attitude!



but you're encouraging grps? and some of those grp members, are absolutely usless as an individual...



don't let the door hit you on the way out.

never claimed 2 be leet just saying that is the opinion of the majority of players who play US. who even said my opinion is respectable? i could be 100% off.

of course im going to encourage group queing because its healthy. the only downside with group queing is people become reliant on it and get mad when they solo que and get a shitty group and come cry on the forums.

i rememebr when real id queing was in the future and everyone thought people would start queing 5 man xrealms and people havn't, they stay in there tight knit groups. usually the reason being is because the people who solo que complain rather than proving they are worth queing with/ try to find a group to play with.

i stand by wat i said about the indivdual and you're right about the attitude part of some players, doesn't mean i personally feel that way i'm speaking of how most US 19s think

not to sure if ur juts trying to suck me back in but ill do my best not to reply again
 
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never claimed 2 be leet just saying that is the opinion of the majority of players who play US. who even said my opinion is respectable? i could be 100% off.

of course im going to encourage group queing because its healthy. the only downside with group queing is people become reliant on it and get mad when they solo que and get a shitty group and come cry on the forums.

i rememebr when real id queing was in the future and everyone thought people would start queing 5 man xrealms and people havn't, they stay in there tight knit groups. usually the reason being is because the people who solo que complain rather than proving they are worth queing with/ try to find a group to play with.

i stand by wat i said about the indivdual and you're right about the attitude part of some players, doesn't mean i personally feel that way i'm speaking of how most US 19s think

i don't want to queue with anyone, seriously, people are over rated. and these 5man groups are not healthy for the bracket. people that will only stay in the game if they can steamroll, isn't healthy for any bracket.

there attitude seems to be, if we can't win, we're better off doing something more productive. when both teams adopt that attitude, games die.
 
I cant change if you wanna group que, only you can, if the other faction is group queing 5 mans and winning then they are playing world of warcraft within it's system, it's possible to do and anyone can do it. its a social game and people like to que with friends and I don't blame them

obviously games are more fun when its 10 well geared twinks vs 10 well geared twinks, but it's not lik you can get the exact perfect matchup every game you just gotta endure, a lot of the elitist players can't deal with poor class comps etc. This is the problem with mop/cata, class composistion matters a hell of a lot more than in wrath/prior, one boomkin on a team can completly change the game whereas back in the day it didn't matter if you had a 3 or 4 shitters on your team you could still make something happen.

Believe it or not most players enjoy a game where both sides are fairly even. Even players in tough love/ waw tawent
 
I cant change if you wanna group que, only you can, if the other faction is group queing 5 mans and winning then they are playing world of warcraft within it's system, it's possible to do and anyone can do it. its a social game and people like to que with friends and I don't blame them

waiting for people to get online isn't my thing.


Believe it or not most players enjoy a game where both sides are fairly even. Even players in tough love/ waw tawent

but when they can see one side is not competitive they still stay in that circle jerk. so that i can't believe, sorry.
 
but when they can see one side is not competitive they still stay in that circle jerk. so that i can't believe, sorry.

i guess they roll shitty pugs alot but they do stay and play in games where both teams are evenly matched. atleast until the last 2 minutes ;). like you said some people do have attitude problems.
 
Really stinks this thread filled so much blah none constructive posts but I can not say I am surprised. First off I wanna say thank you for those who expressed their opinions, both for and against my own. For those who agree with my opinions I welcome you to add me on Battle-Tag and maybe we can try and organize some war games for some fun :) and well even those who disagree if you would like to play in the war games your welcome to add me but I will not tolerate disrespect.

As I was reading this thread the last few pages Saxx spurred some points I would like to address.

how about instead of people wasting there time making these threads they improve there gameplay? the higher the caliber of players we have in warsong the better, like i said previously , the individual is the most important part of the bracket.

You say making these threads are a waste of time when I should spend the time I spend on this to improve my game-play, First off the only time you will ever find me on these forums is while I am at work and I am unable to get on WoW to play. But back to further points, Improving game-play requires pops, the attitudes of players have made it that the actual majority of players would rather not queue. Instead of dealing with elitist attitudes they would much rather do something fun. That is what this thread was meant to bring to light is that the true majority of players are not these elitists, they have huge impacts on the game as they are skilled players but to turn around and treat other players who are in fact trying to improve like shit. No one should stoop so low.

never claimed 2 be leet just saying that is the opinion of the majority of players who play US. who even said my opinion is respectable? i could be 100% off.

Once again this is the thing, the elitist players who have this attitude that are killing the fun for other players are not the majority, as said before, if they were the majority why are the pops not happening?

Believe it or not most players enjoy a game where both sides are fairly even. Even players in tough love/ waw tawent

The best thing you said, most players do enjoy a even game, encouraging these groups lessens the chance of a even game and improves your chance at making sure you win. Most people who are group queuing are not doing so because they want a even game they are doing so for the fact they want to guarantee they win. Ether one of two things need to happen to resolve this, more people group queue and utilize communication tools (skype, vent so on so forth) which is less likely than if people just solo queue.

With all that said, I am not trying to single you out saxx out of alot of the players you always stood out as being respectful and none of these posts really came across as disrespectful and I thank you for that.
 
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