Attention All Guide Authors - It's Time To Update!

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    • It has been two months now since Blizzard released Patch 5.4 which came with HUGE changes for twinks! Unfortunately for our Guide Authors this could mean their guides could now be out of date!

    We have recently noticed that several authors have not gotten around to updating their guides yet, which is completely understandable. But, as the holidays approach we want to have as much accurate information available as possible for new and returning twinks!

    You will have until DECEMBER 1ST, 2013 to update your guides. At that time any guide that is deemed out of date will be moved to the submitted guide forum, and the author WILL LOSE THEIR TITLE.

    Thank you for your understanding, and thank you for all the great guides you produce!

    EDIT - We are now going through all the guides on this site including those of staff members and stickies, so no one is safe! Please send me a message if you are in the process of updating your guide and just need a bit more time! Otherwise out-of-date guides will be moved to the submitted guide section, but can always be re-evaluated for approval once they are updated. Thank you all once again for all that you do to help out your communities and for your understanding.
     
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    Deleting them sounds bad imo... Just make a sub category or something in the guides section. Even though some guides maybe out of date they can certainly still be helpful. Ex. A guide tells everything about a class and tips and etc etc but isn't updated for the new enchants and scaling. That would make it out of date however I would much rather have a guide like that instead of a half assed "this is bis copy this gear" guide.

    I don't like mods completely deleting hard work a select few people have went out of their way to make just because it maybe a patch behind.. Mods determining whether something is out of date or not is sketchy also.. This maybe an idea meant to help filter in current info however I think it will just deter people from wanting to make guides and will completely deter people who made guides from wanting to make anymore.. Just my opinion, but I know if my guide gets deleted for being updated for 5.3 and being outdated on a few things of 5.4 I will not even have a second thought about making another one
     
    clarification said:
    I'm sure you would not mind having your guides and titles removed, since they were from a dead bracket anyways, you know?
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    Or how about I do not feel comfortable updating a guide for what is "Best in Slot" for a class/spec in a bracket that I cannot BG in, for the reasons of 1. Dead Bracket is Dead, 2. Dead Server is Dead, im not going to waste money to xfer to an active server just to test enchants just to make you happy? L2enchantshortcut :D
     
    Laurenti said:
    Or how about I do not feel comfortable updating a guide for what is "Best in Slot" for a class/spec in a bracket that I cannot BG in, for the reasons of 1. Dead Bracket is Dead, 2. Dead Server is Dead, im not going to waste money to xfer to an active server just to test enchants just to make you happy? L2enchantshortcut :D
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    As I said before, I am sure in that case you wouldn't mind to have your guide and title removed as you clearly do not have any intention to update it.
     
    What part of "Just because a guide does not hand you the best in slot enchants for each spec does not mean that it is 100% useless." do you not understand? As others have mentioned Ex. A guide tells everything about a class and tips and etc etc but isn't updated for the new enchants and scaling. That would make it out of date however I would much rather have a guide like that instead of a half assed "this is bis copy this gear" guide. Just because the guide does not have bis enchants for the current patch dosent mean it should be thrown out. Also, there is nothing saying I have to make a guide for you in the first place. You should be lucky that it is there, and should stay there. I shoulden't be bashed for not updating enchants that I cannot even test in BGs. /sarcasm I mean I could tell you that putting Dancing Steel on a MW monk would be viable, and you couldent deny it because you haven't tested it in a BG any more than I have. For all we know there could be a Battleground Bug that causes low lvl casters w/ dancing steel to gain 10,000 SP on proc. But we will never know, because this bracket has no activity. /end sarcasm. If you are going to waste time gearing a toon in a dead bracket atm, then L2enchantshortcut plez :D
     
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    Wow, next time you have questions or concerns please bring them to myself privately and I would be more than happy to address any issue you may have.

    That being said I will try to touch on a few things I have seen here.

    Deletion of Guides - I agree that an alternative method of storage can be done, and that will be moving them to the submitted guides forum where currently users are able to post their uncompleted or unapproved guides. BUT that does not mean my intentions were EVER to permanently delete anyone's hard work. The post clearly said that they were going to be 'SOFT' deleted which always can be restored by any staff member at any time.

    Guide Content - There is no set formula on what makes a guide suitable for it's section, and BiS is always debatable. But, every guide that is approved should be as up to date content and obvious gear/enchant wise as possible. You may choose to use different rings and want to share that opinion with others, but having things such as minor speed as your recommended boot enchant is not acceptable since there are unchallenged better options now. Honestly, if you would of taken the amount of time you spent venting here and put it into updating your guide you would of been most likely finished. Enchants are really the only major change. Yes weapon enchants are still opinion based and untested by many, but its not hard to list possible options.

    'Dead' Brackets - What you may call dead may be considered flourishing to others. Lets not forget that higher brackets go months if not years without pops. Even if you are not currently active in the bracket you have a guide for, we still do not want misinformation for those that do still play in the bracket or plan to in the future. I will take a shot in the dark here and assume you all are talking about the 19 bracket and will like to point out the fact that the 19 bracket is said to be very active on EU servers.

    All in all, this is not meant to make anyone feel like their guide submission is not appreciated because it most definitely is. But, that does not mean you are entitled to your rank or to still have your guide spotlighted just because of your past contributions. Arguing here and saying you are and bashing the volunteer staff, whom most of which are guide authors themselves, is not how to voice your concerns. At the end of the day this website is not just for the veteran twinks to converse and keep in touch, it is more for the newer twinks looking for answers that they typically cannot find elsewhere. Such things as the current gear and the new enchants that their twink needs. :)
     
    I hope you don't actually soft-delete the threads, that'd be jokes.

    Most guides contain extremely relevant content with only outdated enchant sections, which is better than no guide at all.
     
    Eliot said:
    I hope you don't actually soft-delete the threads, that'd be jokes.

    Most guides contain extremely relevant content with only outdated enchant sections, which is better than no guide at all.
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    has been stated they would strip author privliges and move to unapproved guides section.
     
    Goesid said:
    has been stated they would strip author privliges and move to unapproved guides section.
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    OP has not been updated and I don't normally read responses.
     
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