Feral Loom Dps
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For horde or ally?
Shado
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Zehj
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Doesn't matter really, as long as you've got the agil/crit to go with it
Yeah just like Slippers of Unturned Loyalties - Item - World of Warcraft > Boots of the Hero - Item - World of Warcraft for horde warrs right?
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There's a reason both us referred to your faction lol. The melee damage on Riot Stick makes it greater than Lava Dredger.
Falanks
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Riot Stick bring 9 more dps to the table compared the the dredger when all scaled up in a bg
edit: while im not sure the exact equivalent in agility, it should be clear to anyone that the 9 dps more than outweighs the 8agility a scaled dredger has.
Like franciska said, use whatever youd like, its your character.
oh, and I think a better way of saying the boots thing would be gloves > boots, for a horde warrior
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Franciska
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Yup. I like being BiS for certain roles. Want to go Feral as ally? Pick Riot Stick.
Which is like 30-40 agility, i think?
On a sidenote: Before this discussion escalates into flamefests, you are free to equip whatever you think is best and how you enjoy it. The fact is that Riot Stick is still BiS for Feral.
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Goesid
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same crit on wild riders
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no wanting to get too off topic
while that true about wild riders with the boots they total 11stam 5 crit when scaled compared to 14stam 5 crit for the gloves and slippers
Tyramissoux
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Did you also put into your equasion that you won't have the mighty eye-patch then either? So it's a loss of 16 agi and 8 hit. Not saying that this is better as I didn't calculate through all of this, but I think that should be added into consideration.
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Dug up my post from when I broke down Riot Stick/Eyepatch
http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f43/questions-answers-43279/index249.html#post671961
I'll edit in a SS of a Riot Stick feral geared similarly to the one [MENTION=17736]Shado[/MENTION] posted when I get in a game. Just waited out a 10 min queue for a "Transfer Aborted: Instance not found" -_-.
kk here it is! slightly less geared, missing some damage from enchants etc but similar overall offensive stats outside of weapon/helm.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/the%20venture%20co/vione/advanced
http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f43/questions-answers-43279/index249.html#post671961
I'll edit in a SS of a Riot Stick feral geared similarly to the one [MENTION=17736]Shado[/MENTION] posted when I get in a game. Just waited out a 10 min queue for a "Transfer Aborted: Instance not found" -_-.
kk here it is! slightly less geared, missing some damage from enchants etc but similar overall offensive stats outside of weapon/helm.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/the%20venture%20co/vione/advanced
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Zehj
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Don't forget strength, the most useless stat in the world for warriors
Franciska
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Looms + Ello's and you will be grossly overcapped. Riot Stick is more gains than losses overall. Boohoo a few haste lost with no dredger, so what.
Everything is based on weapon damage anyway for Wars and Strength scales real poorly. Better to stack crit for arms. Funny how little you know about Warriors while you main one.
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Regarding ally feral druids and comparing riot stick and skillpatch, here's several facts to note:
Only Mangle, Shred, and auto-attacks scale with DPS.
Ferocious Bite, Rip, and Rake only scale with AP (attack power), and thus are not scaled by DPS.
So, with regards to comparing riot stick and skillpatch for ally feral druids, riot stick over skillpatch is a trade-off between a boost in damage (and crit chance) to a feral's Mangle, Shred, and Auto-attacks, at the cost of some dmg from Ferocious Bite, Rip, and Rake (hit cap? Ellos Band and hit trinket=spell hit-capped easily, and that's not considering other possible sources of hit through BoA hit looms, or even Hoggers pants).
I may come back to this post with some theorycraft numbers to compare the two, once I find time to get back to WoW to access actual numbers.
Only Mangle, Shred, and auto-attacks scale with DPS.
Ferocious Bite, Rip, and Rake only scale with AP (attack power), and thus are not scaled by DPS.
So, with regards to comparing riot stick and skillpatch for ally feral druids, riot stick over skillpatch is a trade-off between a boost in damage (and crit chance) to a feral's Mangle, Shred, and Auto-attacks, at the cost of some dmg from Ferocious Bite, Rip, and Rake (hit cap? Ellos Band and hit trinket=spell hit-capped easily, and that's not considering other possible sources of hit through BoA hit looms, or even Hoggers pants).
I may come back to this post with some theorycraft numbers to compare the two, once I find time to get back to WoW to access actual numbers.
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Zehj
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Strength scales better than crit for every warrior ability other than shield slam, even including enrage procs
Balancing the two stats is best
The math is here http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f95/rate-my-arms-warrior-yjungr-51573/index5.html
Do you still think charge doesn't need spell cap as well?
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