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>Its normal that u have seen me afk
>i ussually afk
>full of jajas
You just went fully retarded :3

or full honest.

u just read situation of the bracket and u though it was fully retarded, understandable.

If some ppl prefer to get gy farmed whole bg or afk and stay in bg, i really dont care.
But i always try to win, even if it is 24premade or healing premade, but if its not possible i aint going to waste my time.
 
i neither have the time nor motivation to getting little kiddy arguments with you.

great, then just leave, ur ig friend doesnt needs help, though u all came to hes rescue, lol.

i havent got a clue what you do (as i have no interest what so ever) i never premade, only 5man, they may be withn a few real id and f2ps and i usually only play my monk when im bored as fuck.

It really doesnt looks like it, otherwise u would stop.
But u guys care so much if cripz afks or not.
"i never premade, only 5man" rofl.

also blaming aggramar maybe counts for like 10% of your afk's.

lol, remenber this "i havent got a clue what you do" be4 posting something wrong about me.
 
The game is a lot funnier when chatting and playing with friends, question isn't really why is Dasha premading, question is why aren't you?

I don't think most people premade to faceroll or get better win/loss, they premade because the games are funnier with friends to have laughs with, than with 9 jajas jajaing in the bgchat not talking a word of english / not even willing to try to interact with non-spanish.

I don't know about you or your friends but people usually leave the party because of too much faceroll, not because of losing. I believe I speak for many when I say I'd rather have a loss over a really tight game, than win a faceroll game in 7min.

ps By saying: "Premading is same cuz ur also polishing ur ratio but with faceroll style.", do you actually admit that you /afk for win/lossratio? o_O

U dont have to be facerolling bgs to be able to talk with friends or play with them.

I like to pug but i also premade sometimes, actually when i was in my 24s i used to premade which reflects in win/loss ratio.
Sometimes its alot more fun and much challenging to play solo, but ofc when u do that and u find enemy team haves 5+ 24s or 5+ healers, there is no fun, and if u dont enjoy the bg just leave, dont afk and stay in bg(atleast this is my opnion).

Almost everyone that premade doesnt premades for win/loss ratio, but u know it will affect it and bgs will be much more easy.
9 jajas not playing objective and talking spanish in chat inst true, u know u always have some spanish that actually speak english and play the objective.
But we here on TI like to make ALL spanish look bad :)

Ive seen you and ur friends premading and afk over a loss, but i didnt come to TI to say "mesik u afk, stop fooling yourself."

If it was my fault that we lost bg i take the lose but if im playing objective whole game and my team is mid farming or defending fr while losing, i see no point in keep trying to win.

I afk when games arent enjoyable( when playing vs OP premades, 24 premades or when my team sucks).
 
Had to punch something to NOT post a sarcastic comment about Cripz winning the argument, but he did.
You can hate on him all you want, but the points he listed are what we all mostly play for and play like.

+1 for Mesi agreeing with him btw


And HOW THE FUCK turned this thread about a stats/skill comparison into a useless 'Juno0 said: "Oh my gawd, Cripz, y u so bad?" then Cripz said: "Oh my gawd, Juno0 y u so much hating?"' thread AGAIN?

Examples:

Cripzblood every1 knows you're leaving games at last sec to increase your ratio, you're only fooling yourself.
Useless attempt to derail #1

the difference between your pathetic attempt to "look good" and dasha.
Useless attempt to derail #2

>Its normal that u have seen me afk
>i ussually afk
>full of jajas
You just went fully retarded :3
Meh, kind of useless but in some boundaries because I don't see you baiting him in EVERY. SINGLE. THREAD. like Juno0 and Dasha.


Been asking myself for the last year of being on TI when this FUCKING. GODDAMN. USELESS. derailing in EVERY. SINGLE. THREAD. Cripz posts in will stop. /signout

PS: I don't care about any of the quoted people's opinion, Cripz did all of the work to counter you himself.
 
Dasha everyone knows u only play bgs with premades to increase your ratio, you're only fooling yourself.

What. Are you taking a bet in losing this argument? If I premade I play with good people that scroll fast and has a chance of beating me. When I pug and I do pug getting returns is much easier mainly because people are brain damaged.

Back to you.
You don't afk in the middle or anything. You're premading with you mag crew playin the game but since you spent your days in cata gy farmin a little too much your ratio sucks so now you realised you could cheat it up, so once the end is near you leave the game.


When you aren't playing the hunter maybe you afk for those reasons.
 
drama about random bg w/l ratio in one of the most unbalanced brackets, you guys are pathetic
 
drama about random bg w/l ratio in one of the most unbalanced brackets, you guys are pathetic

Right now the topic is returns ain't no talk bout w/l ratios.

All ratios can be manipulated it's the amount of returns/caps/wins that plays a minor role so to speak. However one bases their opinion about a player how ever they want and that's fine.
 
This is fucking amazing.Time to gather some TI points.
Which side of arguments should i join?
 
I afk when games arent enjoyable( when playing vs OP premades, 24 premades or when my team sucks).

while it is a fair point you have, you're basically saying you only stay if you're gunna win. or the teams are even?

if i thought like that i wouldn't bother queuing.
 
who care's about /afk'ing.

i /afk a lot to get coco pops or a cup of tea. Although /afk'ing for W/L ratio is sad.
 
What. Are you taking a bet in losing this argument? If I premade I play with good people that scroll fast and has a chance of beating me. When I pug and I do pug getting returns is much easier mainly because people are brain damaged.

U called out win/loss ratio and now ur talking about flag returns?
When u premade with "good people" 80% of the time u are FCing.

Back to you.You don't afk in the middle or anything. You're premading with you mag crew playin the game but since you spent your days in cata gy farmin a little too much your ratio sucks so now you realised you could cheat it up, so once the end is near you leave the game.

like i said i always try to win, so its normal that u wont see me afk at beginning or at middle of the game, that have happened but becuz i had more important matter to resolve irl.
Most of the games i play are solo queueing(around 70%-80%), yes i spent my days back in cata gy farming, i was new to the community and didnt really care about people getting gy farmed, all i cared about was getting more honor and HKs, but i believe you and 95% of the ppl that play wow have gy farmed.
I dont see how gy farming could affect my win/loss ratio, when a team sucefully gy farms its cuz they have the game under control and win.
But since u are there trying to guess why my win/loss wasnt always like this, i will tell you:
Back in cata to me it didnt matter if i was getting gy farmed or if my team was playing vs OP premade and had no chance, all i wanted was to atleast get another honor point or HK.

When you aren't playing the hunter maybe you afk for those reasons.

I afk in every char if the game isnt enjoyable, like u probably have witnessed, so theres kinda of a proof.
I dont need great win/loss ratio or flag caps/returns in my other chars, they arent in the rankings.
 
U called out win/loss ratio and now ur talking about flag returns?
When u premade with "good people" 80% of the time u are FCing.

When I'm on Dasha yes that's pretty accurate but I do have other chars.

like i said i always try to win, so its normal that u wont see me afk at beginning or at middle of the game, that have happened but becuz i had more important matter to resolve irl.
Most of the games i play are solo queueing(around 70%-80%), yes i spent my days back in cata gy farming, i was new to the community and didnt really care about people getting gy farmed, all i cared about was getting more honor and HKs, but i believe you and 95% of the ppl that play wow have gy farmed.
I dont see how gy farming could affect my win/loss ratio, when a team sucefully gy farms its cuz they have the game under control and win.
But since u are there trying to guess why my win/loss wasnt always like this, i will tell you:
Back in cata to me it didnt matter if i was getting gy farmed or if my team was playing vs OP premade and had no chance, all i wanted was to atleast get another honor point or HK.

I don't give a rats ass about your win/loss that's not the point of this argument. I was talking about you afking at the last second of every game you play on your hunter. That was before we derailed this shit now it's more and more harassment.

Fact remains that every game I've seen your hunter in during the last month you have afkd at the last second. And I know it wouldn't be about win loss as even you know it doesn't mean shit but then I started seeing this obsession you seem to have with Lofi's list and I saw your horrific ratio of returned flags and realised that's what you were trying to boost.


Yes like most people in TBC when I played a twink I logged on joind a wsg gy farmed for 2h and then logged out because it sucked.


To the point we all know you're doing it.

I afk in every char if the game isnt enjoyable, like u probably have witnessed, so theres kinda of a proof.
I dont need great win/loss ratio or flag caps/returns in my other chars, they arent in the rankings.

Gl with them pallies
 
Please keep this thread about the general topic of statistics instead of discussing individual people's gameplay. Any further derailment and I will remove posts and issue infractions.

You could take it to PMs or create a social group.
 
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Kale has the highest win ratio, does that mean he's the best wsg player? - No he afks.

Ball has the lowest win ratio, does that mean he's the worst wsg player? - No far from it lol. That's what happens when you ONLY pug on ally at night.

Albino has the highest cap ratio, does that mean he's the best FC in bracket? - No he premades.

Outtlaw has the highest return ratio, does that mean he's the best at killing EFCs? (debatable) -No he used to always solo D and has low ms to outscroll people.

Phron has a higher cap AND return ratio then mindy but if you ask me which shammy is better my answer is clear.


Stats do not reflect skill at all. Far too many variables that stats don't show. A rogue isn't skillful just because they have 1 ms and didn't do anything to kill efc but the rogue who solo'd the efc has 200 ms and doesn't get a return. A person isn't skillful just because they afk'd like a sore loser in the last seconds while the rest of their team stayed for the loss instead of saving their ratios. Someone who premades 90% of their bgs to raise their own cap/return/win ratios aren't skillful just because of their stats. Once you do enough bgs and see enough of the people your experience will be a far better indicator for their skill then any stat will.
 
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