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do you have a f2p saintycute?
Junoo
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Chykcha
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There is skill in everything, even your masturbation technique can be measured, srsly :3
Junoo
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the bads make the slight less bad look good.
Deadvulcano
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That list shows time spent.
Which is great, it shows time spent very well. I've thought of a number of ways one might be able to get a better idea of a player's skill using their stats, but the problem is: stats can't show skill.
Even if a perfect skill list existed how many people would actually want to know that they are the 319,420th best in NA?
Shft
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Fujin0
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Can't we all just agree to disagree on the skill/stats debate?
Some people might say 'Wow! This rogue has 5 returns, he must be a good rogue!', while others might say 'Meh, a ROGUE with 5 returns, that's decent.. maybe...'
STATS - in MY opinion - are too heavily class- (I think we will all agree that a hunter with 10/0 is less 'impressive' than a warlock with 10/0 - although that depends on a lot of other factors as well but nvm) and situation- (3 rogues at efc make him almost bound to die, it's just a matter of who can click faster that gets the return, or being the only 'real' healer in your team will OF FUCKING COURSE get you best healing for your faction on the scoreboard if you're not a completely useless retard- sorry) dependent to be any from of measurement of (what some people see as) 'skill' and it mostly comes down to what [MENTION=4642]Juno0[/MENTION] said: who can push his 3 buttons better?, since those are the tools that Blizzard has given us at this point in the game...
Some people might say 'Wow! This rogue has 5 returns, he must be a good rogue!', while others might say 'Meh, a ROGUE with 5 returns, that's decent.. maybe...'
STATS - in MY opinion - are too heavily class- (I think we will all agree that a hunter with 10/0 is less 'impressive' than a warlock with 10/0 - although that depends on a lot of other factors as well but nvm) and situation- (3 rogues at efc make him almost bound to die, it's just a matter of who can click faster that gets the return, or being the only 'real' healer in your team will OF FUCKING COURSE get you best healing for your faction on the scoreboard if you're not a completely useless retard- sorry) dependent to be any from of measurement of (what some people see as) 'skill' and it mostly comes down to what [MENTION=4642]Juno0[/MENTION] said: who can push his 3 buttons better?, since those are the tools that Blizzard has given us at this point in the game...
Junoo
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i googled "deal with it" and obama appeared.
Junoo
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blizzard dont play there own game.
Klinda
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Some would say that stats would be a good indicator of someone skills while others could say just about anyone can get returns/caps without really thinking about it. You also have to remember that win/loss percentages most of the time don't mean much since in many pugs/premades you could essentially go afk and come back to find the game over with you having done nothing at all.
And also don't forget many players afk when they are on the verge of a loss, don't know why considering this is simply the trial bracket and not high-rated arena. But to answer your question No, Stats aren't really a good way to show how good a player truly is.
And also don't forget many players afk when they are on the verge of a loss, don't know why considering this is simply the trial bracket and not high-rated arena. But to answer your question No, Stats aren't really a good way to show how good a player truly is.
CripzBlood
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This is a fact: the more skilled you get the more objectively u play = flag caps/returns.
Ofc Lofi rankings helps, thats why alot of ppl care so much about win/loss ratio and flag caps/returns per game.
So in my opnion caps/returns, yes show that the player is decent, now HKs dont show anything(just how many time u spent in bg) we have couple of example in ranking list(maratian, canashot... etc).
One thing that pisses me off atm is ppl with better computer /internet, getting all flag returns(which also haves examples on rankings).
Ofc Lofi rankings helps, thats why alot of ppl care so much about win/loss ratio and flag caps/returns per game.
So in my opnion caps/returns, yes show that the player is decent, now HKs dont show anything(just how many time u spent in bg) we have couple of example in ranking list(maratian, canashot... etc).
One thing that pisses me off atm is ppl with better computer /internet, getting all flag returns(which also haves examples on rankings).
Junoo
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i gpt 95% of the returns on monk with 20fps and 200ms constant. whats your excuse?
also factoring in that i dont scroll return, by that logic i shouldn't have returned any.
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Fujin0
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CripzBlood
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I wasnt always a returns/caps whore, playing in low-fair i have 15fps and my ms is 60-45ms in magtheridon(40-25ms in aggra).
And i scroll but only 1way.
Well anyway my excuse is: 2004 Asus Z92J.
CripzBlood
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No competition = guaranteed return
true dat, thats why its good to play from 04:00 - 12:00.
madhombre
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returns arent a signal for skill... you can cc the healer, burst down the efc and still a random jajaja could return the flag because he is closer to the efc than you.. so stats wont show anything. if you have skill, people will notice, doesnt matter how many caps/returns you have, so just ignore the stupid ranking
it isnt skill to click/scroll down in 0,000001seconds to return the flag, its skill to help your grp cap the flag, doesnt matter who returns the flag in the end.
Tyramissoux
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Skill can't be measured, just indicated.
Why? Because there are always actions that aren't counted by any tool. For example: Rogue sneaks into the masses and is barely able to kill the healer. He dies. Did about 3k dmg before getting gangraped but he achieved that his group can now kill the enemies without heal.
Is he low skilled because he died and did just 3k, no flag returns?
This scenario ofc assumes a group of semi-blind dps on your side which happens a lot...
Why? Because there are always actions that aren't counted by any tool. For example: Rogue sneaks into the masses and is barely able to kill the healer. He dies. Did about 3k dmg before getting gangraped but he achieved that his group can now kill the enemies without heal.
Is he low skilled because he died and did just 3k, no flag returns?
This scenario ofc assumes a group of semi-blind dps on your side which happens a lot...
CripzBlood
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returns arent a signal for skill... you can cc the healer, burst down the efc and still a random jajaja could return the flag because he is closer to the efc than you.. so stats wont show anything. if you have skill, people will notice, doesnt matter how many caps/returns you have, so just ignore the stupid ranking
it isnt skill to click/scroll down in 0,000001seconds to return the flag, its skill to help your grp cap the flag, doesnt matter who returns the flag in the end.
In that situation hunters flag whores(myself included) disengage to flag or fuk up positioning be4.
So in that situations even getting flag return it shows lack of skill instead.
But its something i can live with, im addicted to competition and rankings its exactly that.
In the end what matters is in result of the bg, i cant really say which way is the right way cuz its fine to play both ways.
Cuz if u are fast returning flag u wont let horde repick, cuz sometimes the players near to flag dont care about returning it or are slow.
Those flag returns caps/returns are easy to cheat on, i could have 1000flag returns or caps with 0 wsg, but anyway this competition and the thrill of the bgs that keep me from quitting.
I should probably go to sleep, talking alot by topics.
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