Horde F2P Looking for Home/Help

There is also the issue of longterm survival. Smaller communities are prone to fall apart and deteriorate. After putting all that time into a toon, there might be nobody to talk to anymore. An online game with no chat, no trolls, no delusional and socially disconnected individuals is simply boring. But yeah, just try it out and see what you like best.
 
If I could just throw another item out for consideration:

You only have to fish up a LFH once. The availability of premades on the other hand is a permanent, daily consideration.
 
Premading shouldn't be a factor.. If you want to talk to friends you have the channel and you could easily queue up for dungeons with 5 person premades if you want easy mode while playing with friends.

AP has more players and arguably some of the best players but imo there is just to many trolls or people that aren't willing to do anything with new people. Also BWL seems more mature overall. Gotta give my vote to BWL
 
Last time i was on AP horde i asked where the pvp vendors are......The reply were "wowhead it"

Really...is it hard to tell me where its located and which can take no longer than 5 sec to type it.

i've never play on bwl but i'll recomend u to go on it because "some" AP players would not be willing to help u
 
Since realms aren't guilds no-one at all can control which people make their characters where.

AP simply has a lot of people and of course only a very very weird person is going to get along with everybody. I never understand the people expecting a huge server full of random people using the addon to be 100% nice all the time. How is anyone supposed to enforce that? It's nothing to get worked up about, I think. Either play there and try to create a friendly atmosphere in chat that'll discourage trolls, or join a smaller community of nice people.

To my knowledge BWL is 100% nice at the moment. :) Everyone I know that plays on BWL is awesome. One day that might change as more people go there.

There's even been cases of "traditionalist" Aerie Peak players sort of defecting to a new server to start a community with only friendly people. Sometimes it works, sometimes these dry up and people end up mainly playing on AP again.

I'd just give it all a try and see where fancy takes you. :)
 
Last time i was on AP horde i asked where the pvp vendors are......The reply were "wowhead it"

Really...is it hard to tell me where its located and which can take no longer than 5 sec to type it.

i've never play on bwl but i'll recomend u to go on it because "some" AP players would not be willing to help u

I think that speaks more for you as a person than what it does for AP as a server; one cocky reply and you judge everyone on AP Horde - good thinking.
 
I don't really get where all these negative responses are comming from. I recently started playing F2P full time and I made a char on AP Alliance and I've really enjoyed it. Everybody has been really nice and helpfull, knowing that I'm new. Some people are more talk happy than others and some people are more cocky than others, but thats normal, you'll find that everywere. It might be that Alliance AP is more helpfull than Horde, but that seems rather unlikely. We have premades all the time and if I ask a question it gets answered pretty much instantly. I haven't been trolled or anything yet. But as I said it might just be that Horde has a different attitude than Alliance.
 
man i miss real pvp when ppl would actually call you out then you massacre them and they be mad cuz i be #1
and you had 4-5 gooks trying to get you

These kids talk like they know ANYTHING at all...they weren't there man...they weren't there.
 
I interpreted "some" (with the " " as "some" = most).

Well, in the end, it all comes down to what [MENTION=10336]Yde[/MENTION] said. Where there is people, there will be douchebags - but there will also be friendly players where there are people.

Im friendly with all players......my point is that Horde AP community is much more different than Alliance AP
 
Last time i was on AP horde i asked where the pvp vendors are......The reply were "wowhead it"

Really...is it hard to tell me where its located and which can take no longer than 5 sec to type it.

i've never play on bwl but i'll recomend u to go on it because "some" AP players would not be willing to help u

People on AP love to help people out, but lets think about your experience. Is it really necessary to bother people asking something you can find out by wowheading the item in question? People are there to help with the things wowhead doesn't provide (gameplay tweaks, macros, etc)

Don't be lazy.
 
People on AP love to help people out, but lets think about your experience. Is it really necessary to bother people asking something you can find out by wowheading the item in question? People are there to help with the things wowhead doesn't provide (gameplay tweaks, macros, etc)

Don't be lazy.

oh i've already close up my mind on this thread and im better being on my "non twink" realm then being on 1....and the only person who helped me out while i started on AP horde was [MENTION=14988]Oniyui[/MENTION], really thanks man :)
 
People on AP love to help people out, but lets think about your experience. Is it really necessary to bother people asking something you can find out by wowheading the item in question? People are there to help with the things wowhead doesn't provide (gameplay tweaks, macros, etc)

Don't be lazy.

would it really hurt to point someone in the right direction?
 
would it really hurt to point someone in the right direction?

That's exactly why they were told to go to wowhead. AP gets so many new people with the same old questions being asked over and over and over. After a while those kind of lazy questions get under people's skin. I'm glad to help and I often continue to answer even the lazy questions. But I will definitely respond with wowhead or google when I see someone chronically opposed to doing any research on their own. It's inconsiderate.
 
Never gets under my skin to point someone in the right direction, and I have been here almost since AP started.
 
People often seem to forget how confusing and overwhelming the layouts of Horde Cities can be for a long-time Alliance player, even if they are alt-tabbing back and forth to a Wowhead map. A little help goes a long way. I can't help but feel AP Horde has lost a lot of decent players because of their attitude and, lately, horrible and embarrassing pugmades.

As for Blackwing Lair... you don't even have to ask for help. They reach out and offer it, and the quality of their premades, though smaller and less frequent than AP, is very high and very fun. I'd rather have leveled/geared at BWL if battlegrounds were the reason I rolled Horde, but sadly it was Arenas I was after.

However, it's kind of moot anyways, since I never finished at AP and am trying out another bracket.

Here's my recommendation:

Don't roll AP Horde for battlegrounds. Do it only if you have a strong interest in 3s arena.
Roll Blackwing Lair or Vashj for battlegrounds. BWL will have more interesting compositions in premades, Vashj will have more frequent premades.

If you can make a name for yourself while on Vashj or BWL, you will have a better time on AP getting to queue with better players on occasion, but there will still be annoyingly embarrassing pugmades, especially during CTA. BWL will give you the most consistency of quality games.

As for Alliance if you ever do consider it, I highly recommend Moonguard as the most helpful and friendly with very solid activity and a growing class diversity. AP Alliance is also a good choice for friendliness and definitely has the most activity, as well as VashJ Alliance... which is many of the same players on VashJ Horde, so you can make friends if you roll VashJ Horde and it'll carry over if you ever go Ally.
 

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