Which is better for 24 hunters

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if a rogue pops Evasion, simply wait for it to go down, there is nothing you can do....just run away, come back when it wears out

foremans are for 19s are they are garbo
 
if you're beastmaster with narrow escape you'll still have charge, intimidation and webs, plus your pet's special move cc (if you're smart) so you can easily trade off the expertise for the extra stam/crit without feeling much pain. i haven't farmed the foreman's gloves yet just to try them out to get a good feel for them though.
 
The small exp that foreman's gives is complete crap compared to the stats you lose. Foreman's isn't even close to being an option for any BiS 20 hunt

wot?
 
13 Armor, 2 Agi, 4 Crit, 4 Sta>5 Exp

Naga Gloves or Foreman's Gloves - Item - World of Warcraft
13 Amor, 2 Agi, 7 Sta>5 Exp

I'm not sure about the actual stats at 24 but at lv 20 5 exp only gives like 1% off being dodged I believe.

the post i quoted you said for a 20 hunt. and at 20 5exp almost takes away the chance of being dodged by none melee's.

so the choice is 2ap/some crit or 5exp. cuz 13armor and 70hp won't save your arse vs any class.

not missing a scatter/conc shot > 2ap/crit
 
It gives over 2% at level 19, so I highly doubt that.
Ya I tested it awhile ago and got confused. Just logged on to make sure and 5 exp at lv 20 gives 2.7% off so you still have .3% of being dodged. I'm not sure how much it would change for a 24 but I would guess it maybe up around 1%-.5% of still being dodged.


the post i quoted you said for a 20 hunt. and at 20 5exp almost takes away the chance of being dodged by none melee's.
so the choice is 2ap/some crit or 5exp. cuz 13armor and 70hp won't save your arse vs any class.
not missing a scatter/conc shot > 2ap/crit

Ok if you feel that way feel free to go with foreman's. I'd rather take straight dmg and be able to do more dmg then to have a lower chance of being dodged but still get dodged .3%
 
Ya I tested it awhile ago and got confused. Just logged on to make sure and 5 exp at lv 20 gives 2.7% off so you still have .3% of being dodged. I'm not sure how much it would change for a 24 but I would guess it maybe up around 1%-.5% of still being dodged.




Ok if you feel that way feel free to go with foreman's. I'd rather take straight dmg and be able to do more dmg then to have a lower chance of being dodged but still get dodged .3%

thats like saying because you're not hit capped vs 24s you shoud remove your hit gear
 
thats like saying because you're not hit capped vs 24s you shoud remove your hit gear

No but even with 5 expertise you won't be capped vs 20s much less 24s which are growing more and more. If it doesn't cap 20s vs 20s then there's no way it will cap 24s vs 24s. With the OPs 24 hunt the 5 exp maybe more helpful as it will probably cap them vs 20s but as a 20 it just isn't worth the loss of other stats imo.
 
Don't get hung up on a singular "BiS" set. Get the best gear that works for you. Try both items with different sets.
 
5 expertise gives about 2% less chance for them to dodge, That could be curical for kill efc faster, Concing EFC ,Great for defence to not miss cocs and scatters to keep your FC alive. Im using it :) Thx guys.
 

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