SallyG
Legend
unlike all the a-hole resto druids that chase my warlock across the field while my team kills their fc
Gotta get dem killing blows bro.
Holy Paladins safe to play again
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Gotta get dem killing blows bro.
La'Haryl
Legend
Shockadins are getting close to being balanced now. If you're using holy shock for damage it's cd is rarely up for crazy 600-1.5k heals. Holy Paladin's pretty balanced when it can only make use of Flash of Light for heals which is pretty much what you're left with if your HS is always on CD. I'm not mentioning word of glory because the heal is minimal in comparison to 100% up-time on a 30% speed buff. Still not balanced enough to keep players from giving you shit for playing a paladin though.
Read Earls guide if you're thinking about playing one, probably one of the most comprehensive guides on the entire site.
Read Earls guide if you're thinking about playing one, probably one of the most comprehensive guides on the entire site.
hairy
Legend
What? I almost removed fol from my action bar completely, 4 people attacking you in the time of holy shock cooldown = healing of holy shock. If it starts getting bad just wog, then if its even worse just use speed of light and run away, bubble is for babies
Lil
SV huntard
verh
Legend
Unless it's purse, then you need to like it.
Snack
Salty
TI is like facebook; insecure children only likes the popular kids posts in hope of the popular kids to like them.
La'Haryl
Legend
I'd watch it if I were you. That kind of talk will have you ending up like me. Truth is scary, and doesn't belong on these forums.
R Prime
OG
I'd like this post but you are not popular enough yet. Go get in a car accident with Lindsey Lohan or attend the Youtube emmies!
OT - there's no shame in playing anything you want - who cares about FotM - it's your time. It you want a challenge than tailor your gametime accordingly. Too easy? Shelf the toon.
Snack
Salty
Oh sorry, then I'll just edit my post to 'Of course no one would like a post based on that certain posters popularity, and furthermore we are all living in harmony here on TI and everyone is free to have their own opinion, and will not become excluded because of a different point of view'
Oniyui
Legend
Yde likes everything referring to Earl's guide. Haven't you noticed?
HolyTommy
Legend
Greeting to everyone, hope we will have some serious fun in future!
TLDR Warning:
How you even dare to use term Shockadins in relation to this SHIT? Did you ever played Shockadin? (31/0/40) fe on wotlk
Shockadin's were about outlasting an enemy, knowing an enemy(his cd and playstyle) Well played shockadin was using macros(so did holy but wasnt it that crucial) to heal/cleanse himself and the team(party1/2/self) and using HoJ and Repe
( focus/arena1.2.3) macro to always have enemy in target in order to beat him for pathetic melee dmg, but procing Art of War to heal and make exo instant.
The plan was outlast an enemy and beat an def cds from them and then Shock them to death with all burst available in 2-3 GCD (Wings,divine fervor,HolyShock,Rockets on the gloves/engi trinket - exo - judgement/HoW). If posible even cancel art of war to cast exofirst and free one gcd.
Then back to semihealin role unable to kill anything receiving heals/semiheals. Because shock was needed for healing and exo on 15sec CD(rockets wings..etc..).
That was shockadin because HOLYSHOCK was main source of burst.
but denounce - that HIGHDMGFASTCASTCRITPREVENTINGSPAMMABLESHIT is making even good player looks bad, because you're just forced to use it and not think about enemy's cooldowns etc.
To the next one Pursuit of justice.. while it isnt bad you have wrote that WoG isnt almost worth casting. I have reply to this too
30% wont most likely help you get out of range of rogues, speedof light + cleanse + antivenom (havent farm any yet) will.
Also allows you to reposition in fight when you need fast instead of 15-30% buff always even if not needed.
Also as you have said somehow forcing you to not using WoG. WoG is main reason(after basic overpowerness of criting
holyshock and fakecasting) why holypally can heal/cleanse some1 else while some dpsers are on him. Go back to the shockadin section and then bind your crusader strike. Most of the time issomeone on you.. even hunter's pet helps. Yours speed of getin holypower will double(or more) and WoG will become a welcomed instant heal. Thus makin pursuit of justice worse than speed of light.
I was really used to toping healing charts with holypally while geting KILLING BLOWS (but with relatively low dmg done, achieved by focus hojing healer while bursting the target) but spammable exorcism is what makes holypallys in F2P bracket OP(i dont know anything about cata or mop). Not Their ability to heal almost everything they (as far as i remember from wotlk) have always been most defensive healers while not having much CC(like domination mind+30sec cd fear, ws+hex+slowtotem or nonstop 1v2/2v3 arenas because of nonstop cyclone+roots+stuns).
/TLDR
Unless is denounce on like 10-15sec CD. Holypallys are not balanced.
~Erehaimu
TLDR Warning:
How you even dare to use term Shockadins in relation to this SHIT? Did you ever played Shockadin? (31/0/40) fe on wotlk
Shockadin's were about outlasting an enemy, knowing an enemy(his cd and playstyle) Well played shockadin was using macros(so did holy but wasnt it that crucial) to heal/cleanse himself and the team(party1/2/self) and using HoJ and Repe
( focus/arena1.2.3) macro to always have enemy in target in order to beat him for pathetic melee dmg, but procing Art of War to heal and make exo instant.
The plan was outlast an enemy and beat an def cds from them and then Shock them to death with all burst available in 2-3 GCD (Wings,divine fervor,HolyShock,Rockets on the gloves/engi trinket - exo - judgement/HoW). If posible even cancel art of war to cast exofirst and free one gcd.
Then back to semihealin role unable to kill anything receiving heals/semiheals. Because shock was needed for healing and exo on 15sec CD(rockets wings..etc..).
That was shockadin because HOLYSHOCK was main source of burst.
but denounce - that HIGHDMGFASTCASTCRITPREVENTINGSPAMMABLESHIT is making even good player looks bad, because you're just forced to use it and not think about enemy's cooldowns etc.
To the next one Pursuit of justice.. while it isnt bad you have wrote that WoG isnt almost worth casting. I have reply to this too
30% wont most likely help you get out of range of rogues, speedof light + cleanse + antivenom (havent farm any yet) will.
Also allows you to reposition in fight when you need fast instead of 15-30% buff always even if not needed.
Also as you have said somehow forcing you to not using WoG. WoG is main reason(after basic overpowerness of criting
holyshock and fakecasting) why holypally can heal/cleanse some1 else while some dpsers are on him. Go back to the shockadin section and then bind your crusader strike. Most of the time issomeone on you.. even hunter's pet helps. Yours speed of getin holypower will double(or more) and WoG will become a welcomed instant heal. Thus makin pursuit of justice worse than speed of light.
I was really used to toping healing charts with holypally while geting KILLING BLOWS (but with relatively low dmg done, achieved by focus hojing healer while bursting the target) but spammable exorcism is what makes holypallys in F2P bracket OP(i dont know anything about cata or mop). Not Their ability to heal almost everything they (as far as i remember from wotlk) have always been most defensive healers while not having much CC(like domination mind+30sec cd fear, ws+hex+slowtotem or nonstop 1v2/2v3 arenas because of nonstop cyclone+roots+stuns).
/TLDR
Unless is denounce on like 10-15sec CD. Holypallys are not balanced.
~Erehaimu
Earlwing
Sheriff Earl
He's saying that you shouldn't be biased towards liking a post, based on who posted it. I liked your post because It complimented my guide, despite the fact we have had many disagreements in the past.
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Mephisto
Legend
I still plan on making a Holy Paladin, to see for myself once, and for all, but I asked this, because I realize that there are people who have been here longer than me, and have experience when it comes to these questions, and I more or less respect the opinions they have on certain things, and I take them into account when making decision.
Its always helpful to have a few opinions from people who most likely know better than you, especially those who have played a certain class for a very long time. I realize Earl is..... eccentric, but I see that people acknowledge him and his skill, and they seem to agree that he knows whats up. Same for Salfir on the Warlock class, and Nev and Deadvulcano on mages more or less. Thanks for the discussion guys.
Its always helpful to have a few opinions from people who most likely know better than you, especially those who have played a certain class for a very long time. I realize Earl is..... eccentric, but I see that people acknowledge him and his skill, and they seem to agree that he knows whats up. Same for Salfir on the Warlock class, and Nev and Deadvulcano on mages more or less. Thanks for the discussion guys.
Earlwing
Sheriff Earl
Follow my teachings, and you too, may one day be a Vindicator of The Light. Stray not from your righteous path.
Lil
SV huntard
imahpal? seems scary to me