Poll: Should players be allowed to opt-out of the TOP 100 listings?

Should players be allowed to opt-out of the TOP 100 listings?

  • Yes, players should be allowed to opt out of the TOP 100 F2P listings.

    Votes: 14 22.6%

  • No, everyone in the TOP 100 should be included.

    Votes: 26 41.9%

  • I don't care.

    Votes: 22 35.5%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
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Just 2 stickies top 10 of Hks , bots or not bots
top 10 achivements US & EU. No opting out works for 19's for years go witha system that works. Top is bad . Top 10 pushes people.

/Less is more
 
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Thor said:
What about known bots ... ???? You really want this top 3 HKs ?
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The problem with removing bots, is doing it in a fair way. I am fine with removing bots, but I want to establish a subjective criteria for identifying a bot, and not simply rely on hearsay, nor do I want the rankings thread to be a place for reporting bots. Please post any ideas for criteria on identifying bots, that would help to clean up the lists.

Also, the A-52 multiboxer was a real person playing 4 toons, should "multiboxers" also be removed?
 
lofi said:
The problem with removing bots, is doing it in a fair way. I am fine with removing bots, but I want to establish a subjective criteria for identifying a bot, and not simply rely on hearsay, nor do I want the rankings thread to be a place for reporting bots. Please post any ideas for criteria on identifying bots, that would help to clean up the lists.
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You are dodging and masking this subject with your reply. You are not fine with removing bots because it would mean that you have to remove yourself. You will look for excuses when people bring any criteria for identifying a bot. There is no way that there is a discussion possible about this subject with you. It is fruitless by default and you know that too and the reason you give this reply!
 
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solvogero said:
then get on it.
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I'm not the one who wrote this script. :confused:
lofi said:
The problem with removing bots, is doing it in a fair way. I am fine with removing bots, but I want to establish a subjective criteria for identifying a bot, and not simply rely on hearsay, nor do I want the rankings thread to be a place for reporting bots. Please post any ideas for criteria on identifying bots, that would help to clean up the lists.

Also, the A-52 multiboxer was a real person playing 4 toons, should "multiboxers" also be removed?
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Easy: automating abilities, movements, not-AFKing by using a outside program. Especially in a PVP environment, it shouldn't be tolerated.

Obviously Multiboxers aswell.
 
leotseddap said:
You are dodging and masking this subject with your reply. You are not fine with removing bots because it would mean that you have to remove yourself. You will look for excuses when people bring any criteria for identifying a bot. There is no way that there is a discussion possible about this subject with you. It is fruitless by default and you know that too and the reason you give this reply!
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make your own list dawg. One with no bots. You sound like you think this is a competition thus requiring a fair/clean list. Who cares if data gets skew because of bots it affects no one only epeen and fragile egos. I think this poll is pointless and Lofi should do whatever he pleases. The fact he is asking "you" should make feel privileged since otherwise he could pretend to care. Again make your own list if you don't like his list. Same goes to anyone else who thinks bots should be removed. I think if you want something done than go out your way and find a solution and present it to Lofi.
You want bots removed, find a solution. Idk if Lofi would care if he had to remove himself from the list. Either way he gets the last call. One more time because saying 2 times is not enough, make your own list if you don't like his list.
 
I guess leotseddap was right.

Lofi was able to change the subject from allowing people a say in subjects concerning their characters, to bots.
 
There is no point in making another list. Hence its not even the point, all i want is to be removed. If lofi wants a war, wich he is starting, he can get it and so i replied to this bot subject.

Now get lost omgwtfsap and grow up and you might not be so heartless and respectless by then and think oh that leotseddap was actually right.


Why is this still being talked about?
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Because i am still on the list and it wont end before im getting removed is a good and valid reason for me to go on and these are just the light measures.
 
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This wasn't an at or troll thread. It was just to gauge TI opinion. Personally, I'm surprised more people don't care. Most people that don't care probably don't care enough to say they don't care, thus skewing the results. I sort of don't care, if I did care enough about lists, I'd make my own. Too lazy for that. I think what the thread shows is that most people want a complete list. Quite a few don't care and several others seem to think this is some kind of moral crusade where they're entitled to something they're not.

I think the best way is the original way. If they're F2P, or abiding by F2P rules, then they belong on the list. Most of the bots are also players. No one bots exclusively. They do it so they can get honor or HK achieves. It's fairly obvious who bots. There's also some with almost no BGs done and more than 10k HKs from world PvP. The multiboxer is a douche (my opinion) and should be banned from the game, but Blizz allow this shit, and so it exists.

The list is a F2P list about achievements and HK total. Nothing else. There's also a few random other stats thrown in. Purely informative, reference etc. Not a competition. We've also had various skill or favorite or arena comp threads that have all, without exception, ended in trolling flame wars and failure. The list is just a list. Nothing more and nothing less. Stop reading so much into it.
 
leotseddap said:
Now get lost omgwtfsap and grow up and you might not be so heartless and respectless by then and think oh that leotseddap was actually right.

Because i am still on the list and it wont end before im getting removed is a good and valid reason for me to go on and these are just the light measures.
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Did I touch a string. Good luck in getting your name out of the list. Dunno why me thinking that "who cares" makes me disrespectful and apparently immature. Just pointing a thing or two out. If it matters to you then best wishes from me. Ill keep doing my thang.
 
La'Haryl said:
Why is this still being talked about? Lofi's a troll now, plain and simple, he's trolling you.

This topic proves he has no respect for any of you, and this topic proves he has no respect for the bracket.

Just let the dude be mad for whatever reason and ignore him. This drama and garbage is starting to make F2P look like 19's forums.
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link proves what? couldn't find a single post by lofi......lawl
a list he made proves he is mad because.....?

making list about things is childish (unless for data and informative reasons) MORE childish is the people who care about the content of the list. Then again idk since I would not care, but the psychology and behavior of people and their reactions that throws them off in a tantrum is really fascinating. Keep going I want to study more about gamers.

making lists is serious business. GoGo.
 
Okay time for Kahr to step in and tell it like it is.

Leo, stop being a whiny little bitch. This is a PUBLIC forum displaying your PUBLIC armory. You don't own any rights to your armory page, or your character for that matter. Blizzard owns it.

Lofi, continue your thread as you were. It can't be complete without people missing. Sure people can argue it will never be complete, but you're not getting any closer by removing people.


Have a nice day, twinks.
 
Kahr said:
Okay time for Kahr to step in and tell it like it is.

Leo, stop being a whiny little bitch. This is a PUBLIC forum displaying your PUBLIC armory. You don't own any rights to your armory page, or your character for that matter. Blizzard owns it.

Lofi, continue your thread as you were. It can't be complete without people missing. Sure people can argue it will never be complete, but you're not getting any closer by removing people.


Have a nice day, twinks.
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Not really a valid comment you make here. The thread i made relates to what you are saying. Lofi is putting a 11th floor on a 10 floor building and that blizzard makes it public is not really an excuse for doing all of this here on Twinkinfo.

You also don't take into account that those lists are allready incomplete.


Thanks for that comment there Kahr but it doesn't really make sense and only showing what kind of ego tripper you are.
 
leotseddap said:
Not really a valid comment you make here. The thread i made relates to what you are saying. Lofi is putting a 11th floor on a 10 floor building and that blizzard makes it public is not really an excuse for doing all of this here on Twinkinfo.

You also don't take into account that those lists are allready incomplete.


Thanks for that comment there Kahr but it doesn't really make sense.
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I did clearly take into account the lists are incomplete. And if he continues the thread, maybe one day they could be. But I clearly stated by removing YOU, that makes it 1 step farther away from ever being complete. Without you, it'd remain incomplete.

And again, its not a competition, no one is raging in the thread about not being somewhere on the list. Take the 15-19 list for example, its been arouns for ages and no one has raged in there because they aren't higher then another player.
 
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I did clearly take into account the lists are incomplete. And if he continues the thread, maybe one day they could be. But I clearly stated by removing YOU, that makes it 1 step farther away from ever being complete. Without you, it'd remain incomplete.
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It will never be complete. It is not possible wich is making this argument no sense.

And again, its not a competition, no one is raging in the thread about not being somewhere on the list. Take the 15-19 list for example, its been arouns for ages and no one has raged in there because they aren't higher then another player.
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It is because they don't know my characters. If they did they would have listed me in there too and then i would have done the same as i did here.

But this is a bad comparison in the first place. Lofi is putting way more info into his thread then they do in the 14-19 section.

Again m8, your reply doesnt make sense.
 
leotseddap said:
It will never be complete. It is not possible wich is making this argument no sense.


It is because they don't know my characters. If they did they would have listed me in there too and then i would have done the same as i did here.

But this is a bad comparison in the first place. Lofi is putting way more info into his thread then they do in the 14-19 section.

Again m8, your reply doesnt make sense.
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Again, why does how much information he's putting on the thread matter? Its all available on your armory page.

As long as I don't see a picture of you, Facebook link, or your address, I think it's fine.
 
leotseddap how do you have any right to call somebody "respectless? if anybody here is respectless its you.
 
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