Satchel Gloves and some questions

[Weiss]

OK, so from my understanding, Satchels are awarded at the end of every dungeon that you queue for with the Random Dungeon Finder. The Satchels' contents depend on which dungeon you did, not what level you are.

I know 24s can't personally queue for random SM:Graveyard and other dungeons that drop the glove satchels (they can queue for it directly last time I checked), but couldn't they queue up for Randoms with someone at the top-end of the SM:Graveyard, like 34 or whatever, and get into SM:Graveyard, thus getting a chance at satchel gloves? I thought you could do something like that back in wrath, so I'm not sure anymore.

Also, I am trying out a 24 warrior in the bracket. I had one at 22 with a few BiS pieces already (just from doing some EXP-on twinking) so I thought I would drop into 20-24 and test the waters. Right now I am looking towards Fury for the snare and rage upkeep.

Should I use 2H or DW? I've seen some 24s using 2h for fury, but I'd like to get a straight answer.
Right now I'm using both as I level up to 24:

#showtooltip
/equip Bloodied Arcanite Reaper

and

#showtooltip
/equip Bloodsoaked Skullforge Reaver
/equipslot 17 Venerable Mass of McGowan

All of the weapons have Crusader enchant on them, is +15 STR better for any reason?
Is a fast OH preferable to a slow one? What BiS weapons should I look out for (not swapping faction)?
I plan on using Shadow Oil, especially if I DW (got a bunch lying around, and its easy to make more). Is it even worth it on 2H with slow speed?
Any other tips on warriors @ 24 would be appreciated. Especially anti-hunter precaution. Thanks

 

[roudy]

for duelweild the static 15str is better in your oh since crusader doesnt stack. never played 2h fury before titans grip but im sure crusader is the best enchant for that. you cant get satchel gloves at 24, just the belt/back like 19's

 

[Weiss]

isn't more crusader procs better though since its 100-200 heal per? even it the STR doesn't stack, and better uptime.

 

[roudy]

its not recomended to run dual crusader at 19 or 29, i dont think the oh procs it enough to make it more valuable then the static str buff. Most people dont run it for the heal.

 

[Hue]

I'd Recommend trying out a 2h fury warrior with crasder on your 2h
Bloodthirst crits and hits like a truck, also you'll be getting some really nice burst with a 2h

 

[Weiss]

I've done some testing, and since Bloodthirst scales directly from attack power, it doesn't hit a significant amount more from a 2H. However, I will keep both 2H and DW macro'd, and switch to 2H on hunters and other kiters for max burst or when I have >60 rage.

I made this macro:

#showtooltip
/cast [combat] Attack
/cast [nocombat] Charge

because sometimes I do not have enough rage to attack a new target and get my auto attack started. Is there a better way around this, like should I get an addon so I can keep tabs on my rage more effectively?

Also, Crusader buff can stack now. I queued for gnomer to get my legs and it double procc'd on at least two occasions. It might only happen with they both proc at the exact same time. Edit: Crusader stacks just like double landslide/mongoose/etc. They don't need to proc at the same time. From looking on WoWhead it seems that is has always been this way. (First time I saw it, both had exact same time left; second, one was at 7 sec and other was at 3, but they might have procc'd at same time then one refreshed.) My AP was indeed increased by over 400 (from 330 to 850 or something) during the duration.

Because of these things I am leaning towards DW more than 2H for fury.

One last thing; I tried putting Shadow Oil on my BoA weapons and it gave me the error "Item level too low" after it did the whole cast-to-apply thing. Will this work on non-boa weapons as long as I am 24, or do they have to be exactly level 24 (or above), like the gnomer BoE weapons? I sent in a ticket as well.

 

[Sammy]

btw crusader DOES stack, tried to today, 4 times got dual saders, plus 200 str

 

[Weiss]

btw crusader DOES stack, tried to today, 4 times got dual saders, plus 200 str

got a 1.1K crit with bloodthirst while DWing lulz

 

[SallyG]

I made this macro:

#showtooltip
/cast [combat] Attack
/cast [nocombat] Charge

because sometimes I do not have enough rage to attack a new target and get my auto attack started. Is there a better way around this, like should I get an addon so I can keep tabs on my rage more effectively?

An alternative to that, put the below line in any attack macros.

/startattack

i.e.,

/startattack
/cast Bloodthirst

/startattack
/cast Heroic Strike

It ensures you queue an auto-attack. I prefer to do that rather than your previous macro. Up to you.

 

[Weiss]

An alternative to that, put the below line in any attack macros.

/startattack

i.e.,

/startattack
/cast Bloodthirst

/startattack
/cast Heroic Strike

It ensures you queue an auto-attack. I prefer to do that rather than your previous macro. Up to you.

Oh, very good. I thought /attack was the way to do it, but it also toggles it off. Thanks so much!

 

[l30t53dd6p]

OK, so from my understanding, Satchels are awarded at the end of every dungeon that you queue for with the Random Dungeon Finder. The Satchels' contents depend on which dungeon you did, not what level you are.

I know 24s can't personally queue for random SM:Graveyard and other dungeons that drop the glove satchels (they can queue for it directly last time I checked), but couldn't they queue up for Randoms with someone at the top-end of the SM:Graveyard, like 34 or whatever, and get into SM:Graveyard, thus getting a chance at satchel gloves? I thought you could do something like that back in wrath, so I'm not sure anymore.

At first you need to be level 28 to get gloves from satchels. You wont get them before that level wich makes those satchels pretty much level dependant and not like you tell wich random dungeons you play. How i found out was exactly the thing you describe in your 2nd paragraph. Also GM's confirmed this sadly.

Just clearing this up.

 

[Weiss]

At first you need to be level 28 to get gloves from satchels. You wont get them before that level wich makes those satchels pretty much level dependant and not like you tell wich random dungeons you play. How i found out was exactly the thing you describe in your 2nd paragraph. Also GM's confirmed this sadly.

Just clearing this up.

Alright, thanks.