Ptr stuff.

[Jaylen]

On the PTR, they exist but disabled even if you try to craft one.

This kind of thing really bugs me. They built a whole spec around this and now they are just lazily disabling it and not replace it with something else. At least re-work the item to only be able to add 1 or 2 sockets instead of 3 or change the spec to give you something else at 30 points.

 

[Twinkit]

This kind of thing really bugs me. They built a whole spec around this and now they are just lazily disabling it and not replace it with something else. At least re-work the item to only be able to add 1 or 2 sockets instead of 3 or change the spec to give you something else at 30 points.

two words "borrowed power"

 

[tyr3d]

two words "borrowed power"

I mean, it's absurd the things they target. They'd do better to address, say, random boss resets. What do they hope to achieve with this? Who knows. Looking forward to 80% AI code completion, this game will be a joy tho - what you lose on the roundabout, you gain on the swings.

 

[toskosa]

Might this be a change they are implementing with the maybe arrival of dragonflight timewalking? Instead of just slapping an ilvl req on the item they just decided to kill it?

 

[shanker]

DF JC settings and SL gems, with blizz lowering ilvls on PTR, i suspect they did not want PTR players back tracking and using items from 3-4 years ago. that was their reasoning for wiping van wow, BC shoulder and head enchants. they could adjust them to the new gear levels or level gate them without wiping them

 

[sector3600]

DF JC settings and SL gems, with blizz lowering ilvls on PTR, i suspect they did not want PTR players back tracking and using items from 3-4 years ago. that was their reasoning for wiping van wow, BC shoulder and head enchants. they could adjust them to the new gear levels or level gate them without wiping them

Kind of, on the PTR --

The BC Shoulder enchants still exist, just require a higher character level to apply and for the most part are reduced by 1 point.

The Vanilla Enchants still work and are still BIS for certain situations - examples, Crusader, Minor Speed and Greater Agility

Enchantments from Vanilla through BFA still work, granted some (note not all) are a little lower in a stat.

Northrend/Cata Inscription and the Wintersrping Spellpower shoulder enchants still work, just adjusted lower under level 20.

Where Blizzard "nuked" twinks, in certain trinkets, and adding rings and necklace slots - again kind of. I find Jewelcrafting viable again to cover these as Blizzard did not kill crafting items just adjusted their ilvl to around 18 (vs 22-26) with the Relic of the Past. With Northrend Jewelcrafting, one can make two (or more) double socket trinkets requiring to keep Northrend JC 25, and a double socket Shadowmight Ring (that requires no JC to keep) and other one socket rings (also without keeping JC).

The other fun point at the moment is they kind of left dangerous trinkets for example like the Dividing Ooze if you acquired it during Timewalking but disabled the one if dropped during a normal dungeon run to require a higher character level at the moment. But to note they nuked Armored Elekk Tusk by adding a higher character level to use and other ones randomly across each expansion but left others with simliar traits so far useable.

The other nuke is on certain set items or dungeon drops with socket and abilities from BC/ and the head pieces from WOTLK but the BFA drop from rares from the two starting areas still work and can proc once for a socket or tertiary. The set mail and leather set pieces also increased their effect a little higher, but hopefully there will be other drops discovered or some return of these dungeon sets with adjustments. In addition, the Engineering Meta/Cogwheel Googles and the Ghost Iron Dragonling still are options, the cogwheels and meta socket still work on PTR.

 

[Skindeck]

 

[Estradiol]

If you want a three socket necklace, do it in the next three weeks cause the most you might be able to do after that is two. Which even then we cant be sure about. TWW zones will remain high level, so the socket items for them might no longer work on anything in our level range.

Personally I would like to see some crafted stuff be viable again beyond just the dragon trinket. If its just 5 ilvls theres a chance some of it might, but we wont know for sure until they fully implement scaling for low levels.

Ok, so my JC skill is 69 (lol), with a lesser insight (+50), a ** clasp, 12 ** dust, 2 ** eternity embers and the rest *, and enough concentration and for some reason its showing me I will still get only a rank 2 setting, did they already remove the ability to craft the third tier and just havent grayed it out yet?

 

[Rahn]

That will get you a rank 3 setting.
You're probably highlighting the left hand side ** icon instead of the right hand side *** icon.

 

[SPQR]

Was ptr bricking win 7?
or was it actual release of midnight in March?
or was it more of guidelines than an actual rule book?

 

[sector3600]

One thing to note, the Burning Crusade Timewalking dungeons are not dropping any multiple socket or normal set items <= level 20.

But the gear scales to ilvl 26 so checking if tertiary or socket will proc. Some are the set pieces but not set aligned.

 

[Noinlol]

Everything below is from the Midnight PTR and played on a lvl 20 character.
Using Reckless Pyrestone(2int/2haste) Gems alongside haste from gear, I was able to reduce the cast time of spells that have 1.5 sec cast time (Immolate, Unstable affliction, Flash heal, etc.) down to 1.1 sec. The Break point seems to be 130 haste to get to 1.1 cast speed(Outside BG's). If i were to min max, id use Brilliant Ornate Ruby (3 int) with Quick Emerald (5 haste).

The next breakpoint was at about 192 haste(Outside BG's), the cast time of spells reduced from 1.5 to 1 sec cast.

Mystical Skyfire Diamond(https://www.wowhead.com/item=25893/mystical-skyfire-diamond) gives 148 haste on the PTR

For Warlocks, Skyfire Bolt's are still a thing. Haste gear + Skyfire Proc, 3 sec cast Chaos bolt down to 1.3 sec cast(Outside BG's).

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=389550/sophic-devotion Weapon Enchant gives 24 main stat on PTR(Outside BG's)

(Major Spellpower weapon enchant tooltip says 11 spellpower on PTR)

 

[Klausz]

Everything below is from the Midnight PTR and played on a lvl 20 character.
Using Reckless Pyrestone(2int/2haste) Gems alongside haste from gear, I was able to reduce the cast time of spells that have 1.5 sec cast time (Immolate, Unstable affliction, Flash heal, etc.) down to 1.1 sec. The Break point seems to be 130 haste to get to 1.1 cast speed(Outside BG's). If i were to min max, id use Brilliant Ornate Ruby (3 int) with Quick Emerald (5 haste).

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The next breakpoint was at about 192 haste(Outside BG's), the cast time of spells reduced from 1.5 to 1 sec cast.


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Mystical Skyfire Diamond(https://www.wowhead.com/item=25893/mystical-skyfire-diamond) gives 148 haste on the PTR

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For Warlocks, Skyfire Bolt's are still a thing. Haste gear + Skyfire Proc, 3 sec cast Chaos bolt down to 1.3 sec cast(Outside BG's).

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https://www.wowhead.com/spell=389550/sophic-devotion Weapon Enchant gives 24 main stat on PTR(Outside BG's)
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(Major Spellpower weapon enchant tooltip says 11 spellpower on PTR)

How is Sophic even applied ? Most likely it will be changed?

 

[Klausz]

Is there any reason to hold onto lock boxes and such until the prepatcb is done?

 

[sector3600]

Is there any reason to hold onto lock boxes and such until the prepatcb is done?

Depends, if looking for gear then I would wait to see if a few of the items are fixed or adjusted.

If looking for materials or recipes, then opening these will not matter.

One thing currently annoying is the time-walking reward bag items and other "Timely" are broken on the PTR for <= level 20.

Legion missions reputation chests or rewards bags from WoD Tavern quests are still working.

Right now any Burning Crusade lock-box gear may be broken gear at pre-release and may not be grandfathered, so unless Blizzard fixes the non-quest gear in Burning Crusade and WOTLK I would suggest waiting to open those lock-boxes from those areas.

 

[sector3600]

== MAJOR UPDATE ==

It appears the latest patch on PTR has returned/adjusted the Burning Crusade socketed dungeon and the other previous broken dropped gear back <= level 20!

This includes the trinkets that were randomly disabled from various expansions and the Timely gear that was fudged up a few days ago.

 

[Zorrka]

== MAJOR UPDATE ==

It appears the latest patch on PTR has returned/adjusted the Burning Crusade socketed dungeon and the other previous broken dropped gear back <= level 20!

This includes the trinkets that were randomly disabled from various expansions and the Timely gear that was fudged up a few days ago.

Most important early observation is that shadowlands gems are no longer meta you can't stack 50% running speed and bonkers heals you used to get from the veteran gem.
Soloing instances is not as trivial now as a result. Hopefully there will be other fun broken things to replace these, I'll miss running faster than a ground mount on foot with my monk

 

[Rahn]

Most important early observation is that shadowlands gems are no longer meta you can't stack 50% running speed and bonkers heals you used to get from the veteran gem.
Soloing instances is not as trivial now as a result. Hopefully there will be other fun broken things to replace these, I'll miss running faster than a ground mount on foot with my monk

How much speed does the SL gems give now?

 

[sector3600]

Most important early observation is that shadowlands gems are no longer meta you can't stack 50% running speed and bonkers heals you used to get from the veteran gem.
Soloing instances is not as trivial now as a result. Hopefully there will be other fun broken things to replace these, I'll miss running faster than a ground mount on foot with my monk

For cloth there is the sweet one chance to proc socket/tertiary BFA set pieces, that even without the proc has 5% movement speed applied for two pieces and it seems to stack with Minor Speed on PTR.

As observed your current speed using the Shadowlands speed gems is about 2/3s lower but non-gem speed on gear seems not as effected but one will have to do more testing.
This impacts most classes without the ability to apply movement via talents or <= level 20 class abilities for movement increase in current PTR/pre-release builds - Death Knight, Warrior, and Mage come to mind as in still needing the Speed enchants and speed gems over their primary or secondary gems.

 

[sector3600]

How much speed does the SL gems give now?

About 1/3 of the speed Live to PTR.