ZF Mallet vs. Shovelphlange's Mining Axe w/ poleaxe math

omgedit- I didnt include impale multipliers in this. ill do it tomorrow. need sleep RITE NAO





hi, here is how i spent my last 25 mins



These calculations average out every attack (including crits), so this is about what your damage would look like on a deeprun rat.



SPMA = Shovelphlange's Mining Axe

MZF = Mallet of Zul'Farrak

y=damage (output)

x=attack power (input)



Basically just put your AP in for x and calculate it and you'll get your damage



MZF white damage formula: y=(3.1x+1449.56)/14

SPMA white damage formula: y=(3.6526x+1314.936)/14



MZF yellow damage formula: y=(2.976x+1449.56)/14

SPMA yellow damage forumula: y=3.1308x+1314.936)/14



putting each set of equations together you get the intersections:

SPMA white swings hit harder than MZF after 244 AP

SPMA yellow swings hit harder than MZF after 870 AP





With a perfect setup, youll have 650-700 AP with battle shout up, so your damage would look something like this (not including AP from weapon stats). Not mitigated.

MZF white: 253

SPMA white: 270

SPMA > MZF by ~17 damage

MZF yellow: 247

SPMA yellow: 245

MZG > SPMA by ~2 damage

As your AP gets higher, SPMA's damage pulls further and further away from mallet.



They are very close, and while the dps on the ZF Mallet is higher by around 8 dps, the benefits from a swing timer reset are good enough for a number junkie to drool over.



Furthermore, putting crusader on SPMA would yield more procs than the ZF mallet. Crusader is a 1 ppm enchant, so SPMA (2.8 speed) would proc it 1 in every 21.4 hits, and MZF (2.5 speed) would proc it once in every 24 hits.



It certainly can be left to personal preference which weapon to choose, but I know there are some people out there who are just looking for a definitive answer. Personally, I'll be sporting a ZF mallet in 1v1s and arenas because the extra 80 health is a pretty nice increase for my post-3.1 health pool. It also looks cooler =D







I added this into my warrior guide and updated some other parts for the last patch. cheers
 
depends on spec imo. if arms speced and using BB/LoA/PoD you will have 5% more crit when switching to shield/1H with a SPMA. with a normal arms spec it will do more dmg than MZF.

if you are using pacifier and a mace spec -> MZF.



or are we talking about fury/prot or wielding a 1h in general?

mmh, im lil confused...
 
Jancith said:
ehm..



did you account for normalization, if it applies?



yes



Bansil said:
depends on spec imo. if arms speced and using BB/LoA/PoD you will have 5% more crit when switching to shield/1H with a SPMA. with a normal arms spec it will do more dmg than MZF.

if you are using pacifier and a mace spec -> MZF.



or are we talking about fury/prot or wielding a 1h in general?

mmh, im lil confused...



read the topic =p
 
The one thing this does not take into account is the racial expertise rating bonuses, which I know is a bit off-topic but could help decide which of the two is superior. Orcs have an axe bonus this would give a significant enough bonus to the SPMA for an Orc. Dwarves and Humans on the other hand have a mace expertise bonus which would give the edge to the MZF... Just something to consider.
 
Orcishbrutality said:
The one thing this does not take into account is the racial expertise rating bonuses, which I know is a bit off-topic but could help decide which of the two is superior. Orcs have an axe bonus this would give a significant enough bonus to the SPMA for an orc. Dwarves and Humans on the other hand have a mace expertise bonus which would give the edge to the MZF... Just something to consider.



youre right, i didnt even think about that =p
 
I'm still a little confused myself, are you talking like switching to sword and board as arms spec or something?
 
ah gotcha, I'm mad tired atm lol. I need to sleep...
 
If you're going to sword and board against a Rogue, you would be using more yellow attacks versus white attacks, where you can see that the MZF benefits you greater. That is unless you have a freak amount of AP. It also gives you a slight stamina boost which would help against a rogue much more than slight AP boost. On the other hand yes, if you already have 5 points invested in Poleaxe Specialization then the SPMA would be a better option, I agree.
 
Orcishbrutality said:
If you're going to sword and board against a Rogue, you would be using more yellow attacks versus white attacks, where you can see that the MZF benefits you greater. That is unless you have a freak amount of AP. It also gives you a slight stamina boost which would help against a rogue much more than slight AP boost. On the other hand yes, if you already have 5 points invested in Poleaxe Specialization then the SPMA would be a better option, I agree.



You could always start off with zf and swap to mining after youve lost health
 

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