Your current BOE might be GrandFathered (with screenshots)

[Enjoi]

There have been claims of Shadowfang having an item level of 23 at 19 and one at item level 24 at 19 with no difference in stats (yet) with no photo evidence that I personally have come across.

The assumption is that there are various scale variations of items of the same level.
EXAMPLE: One shadowfang doing 4 shadow damage on proc v.s. another shadowfang of same level but doing 8 shadow damage on proc

I can confirm this is true.
I’ve had an overstock of twink items from 9+ years ago all not equipped and came across a
Nightreaver
I didn’t think much of it until I saw multiple in the AH and noticed their weapon damage and proc both hit for less as well as a different item level.
See attached below:

I’m assuming mine is now grand fathered until we can get someone to confirm that this along with others like shadowfang are still dropping them, just complete NRG on which variation you’d get.

Starting to wonder if we’ll notice this with different weapons and gear in the coming weeks.

 

[Yapah]

There have been claims of Shadowfang having an item level of 23 at 19 and one at item level 24 at 19 with no difference in stats (yet) with no photo evidence that I personally have come across.

The assumption is that there are various scale variations of items of the same level.
EXAMPLE: One shadowfang doing 4 shadow damage on proc v.s. another shadowfang of same level but doing 8 shadow damage on proc

I can confirm this is true.
I’ve had an overstock of twink items from 9+ years ago all not equipped and came across a
Nightreaver
I didn’t think much of it until I saw multiple in the AH and noticed their weapon damage and proc both hit for less as well as a different item level.
See attached below:
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View attachment 8448

I’m assuming mine is now grand fathered until we can get someone to confirm that this along with others like shadowfang are still dropping them, just complete NRG on which variation you’d get.

Starting to wonder if we’ll notice this with different weapons and gear in the coming weeks.

Only useful GFed item in SFK is SF, the rest have lower ilvls than the newer versions

 

[Bestworld]

I already posted fang comparison photo in some other thread.

 

[Yapah]

I already posted fang comparison photo in some other thread.

They are currently the same stats, but in the future ilvl 24 might be better. Also lvl 19 and 20 SF both scale to ilvl 23 for some odd reason.

 

[necroaqua]

In 7.3.5, Shadowfang (and other scaling pieces) still dropped at their original ilvl from chests. I haven't seen confirmation that this is still the case, but I think theres good odds that the ilvl 24 Shadowfang is NOT GFd. Just somewhat rare as it can only be found in chests.

Also its hard to know which will be better in the future, since the ilvl 23 versions used to be ilvl 25 and were better. Depending on how things scale or don't scale, it could go either way.

Also does your verse change the tooltip when looking at things in the AH? Your inventory? Or only when equipped? Or tooltip never changes, just the damage?

 

[discodog]

Is there even a clear answer as to the drop rates on SF? I was farming it for about a week straight with no luck and the wowhead was giving me some confusing drop rate answers.

 

[jake11241]

Is there even a clear answer as to the drop rates on SF? I was farming it for about a week straight with no luck and the wowhead was giving me some confusing drop rate answers.

Were you farming it on your 19?

 

[SPQR]

same reason green bg rings got same stats as blue rings.

blizzard logic

 

[ascoot]

versa also affects proc damage, depends on character viewing item.

 

[discodog]

Were you farming it on your 19?

Yeah I was

 

[Bestworld]

same reason green bg rings got same stats as blue rings.

blizzard logic

What blue rings? Green BG and blue BG rings do have different stats. That's at least true for the agility variants.

 

[DoByG]

What blue rings? Green BG and blue BG rings do have different stats. That's at least true for the agility variants.

Not for lvl 19 and lvl 20 chars. Maybe 29s can see a difference because there are more stats on them so the ilvl steps to get higher of any stat would be smaller.

 

[Bestworld]

Not for lvl 19 and lvl 20 chars. Maybe 29s can see a difference because there are more stats on them so the ilvl steps to get higher of any stat would be smaller.

Swear to god agility variants have like 1 less agility when green compared to blue in terms of BG rings. Can't remember if there's a stamina difference too. I'm not home atm, so I can't post screens, but I'm 100% sure that's the case. Green rings gives 3 agility, and blue rings give 4 agility at level 19.

 

[DoByG]

Swear to god agility variants have like 1 less agility when green compared to blue in terms of BG rings. Can't remember if there's a stamina difference too. I'm not home atm, so I can't post screens, but I'm 100% sure that's the case. Green rings gives 3 agility, and blue rings give 4 agility at level 19.

Well, I have only seen int rings post prepatch, but I assumed agi ones should scale the same. Can you check and let me know, if that is not the case?

 

[SPQR]

What blue rings? Green BG and blue BG rings do have different stats. That's at least true for the agility variants.

I have seen blue items going bis retroactively with 8.0
from 4 stats to 5

 

[Bestworld]

I have seen blue items going bis retroactively with 8.0
from 4 stats to 5

https://gyazo.com/3d502fee703694bce8494b9f56b3df71

https://gyazo.com/420db85ac5ab143d734008fba419e203

So green one is missing 1 of each stat for me.