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[icehawk]

By solid i mean very op

I'm glad u followed up with this comment - lol. Read ur post above and I'm like, solid, Surv will be a freaking monster! Can't believe they have Harpoon, Trap plus 29's get the heal and a bleed and FD. As if they weren't tough enough already.

I was hoping for a bit more for BM Hunters. Multi shot is nice but throwing in Beastcleave would have been awesome. Oh well, beggars (tight a$$es who don't pay for the game) can't be choosers!

 

[h3h3]

are they really allowing zen flight at level 1..

 

[Allybeboba]

Kek @ people that want "competitive" games but won't play wargames. /shrug

Twinking is not about "competitive" games.

 

[Walrusbreath]

Oh well, beggars (tight a$$es who don't pay for the game) can't be choosers!

Yeah I think most people already bought several xpacs and months. Derp.

A lot of us don't like rewarding Blizz for the shit they turned WoW into since WoD, Legion included.

 

[Dragpz]

are they really allowing zen flight at level 1..

Zen Flight is "allowed" at level one, but you still need a glyph to use it ( which requires level 70).

 

[Kageroo]

Twinking is not about "competitive" games.

I agree that it was not about competitiveness. It was about out gearing levelers and killing them as fast as possible with no chance of losing the fight.

But it all changed in "Wrath of the Lich King" with introduction of separate brackets for twinks and levelers. And this is the reason why a lot of people started with twinking. They could have competitive games at low levels with no need of buying another expansions, leveling to max level, etc. But with Legion it is gone. It is hard to have competitive games with levelers who have no map awareness, backpeddle, click, keyboard turn, etc. I agree, that some "Jajas" were "bad", but they at least had clue what to do in BGs, but I cannot say that about most levelers. And that is reason why so many twinks quit.

I agree with Zuro. Twinking as we remember it, is ruined.

 

[Allybeboba]

I agree that it was not about competitiveness. It was about out gearing levelers and killing them as fast as possible with no chance of losing the fight.

But it all changed in "Wrath of the Lich King" with introduction of separate brackets for twinks and levelers. And this is the reason why a lot of people started with twinking. They could have competitive games at low levels with no need of buying another expansions, leveling to max level, etc. But with Legion it is gone. It is hard to have competitive games with levelers who have no map awareness, backpeddle, click, keyboard turn, etc. I agree, that some "Jajas" were "bad", but they at least had clue what to do in BGs, but I cannot say that about most levelers. And that is reason why so many twinks quit.

I agree with Zuro. Twinking as we remember it, is ruined.

The largest portion was of "Levelers" are endgame players and are just retolling alts. As a matter of fact "levelers" are also twinks when they are rerolling new toons as well. EVERYONE has been a "leveler" at one time or another. The only difference is that some XP locked players seem to think that they are better than XP unlocked simply because of the virtue that they are XPlocked toons.
As I explained in another thread, the Dunning-Kruger effect is full swing with many experience locked lowbies. If you do not know what the Dunning-Kruger effect is I suggest you research it and you will find my diagnosis accurate. That is one of the reasons I find this site so fascinating and entertaining.

 

[Walrusbreath]

"The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is."

That describes not only a lot of twinks but many players in WoW generally. Everyone thinks they're uber when most are just average or slightly above avg. at best. What's really pathetic are the punks that buy Glad/Hero/Marshall titles and boss kills but can't play above 1700.

 

[Allybeboba]

"The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is."
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DING DING DING DING!!!

I could not have stated it better myself. Now you all may be starting to get a little bit of insight of why I like pursuing this site so much.

 

[Voc]

Does anyone know if level 20 arms warriors get heroic leap in 7.1?

 

[SPQR]

Everyone thinks they're uber when most are just average or slightly above avg. at best.

Whole point of exp locking is spread the idea of being better than the rest in some way or another.
People assume if you got best gear -> you invested much time -> you played longer -> you know more than average bob.

It is common when victims of propaganda are its creators.

 

[Allybeboba]

It is common when victims of propaganda are its creators.

That why you don't go around boasting saying you are the "best". It means so much more when someone else states it. And even more so when a complete stranger states it as opposed to a friend.

It also why I "kek" at people that nominate themselves for best of lists.

 

[Walrusbreath]

Whole point of exp locking is spread the idea of being better than the rest in some way or another.
People assume if you got best gear -> you invested much time -> you played longer -> you know more than average bob.

It is common when victims of propaganda are its creators.

Guess I should have said, "all else being equal" such as gear, assuming no one is using scripts/cheats, etc. Yes, the average twinker is probably a better player than the average leveler passing through the bracket. But I've seen it in RBG/arena where a lot of them at mid to high rating don't realize they didn't get their CR by themselves since you don't get rating for 1v1. It was their teams that had more to do with it than one individual.

Then there are those who play only OP specs, not much the 2nd or 3rd tier specs where they don't have an auto-win button.

 

[Zuro]

Can't roflstomp levellers? Wow so bad! Especially if you are complaining in 10-29

I can still roflstomp levelers, that's not the point. It's all the bad changes. Like predetermined stats in bgs, class changes and not seeing other twinks in bgs. Really takes the excitement out of the game for me. But yes. I also want gear to impact your power in pvp more.

 

[Zuro]

Dude.. the guy roll the most **** server in most **** bracket and prob most **** classes.
The statement about " playing against other twinks " is irrelevant.

Majority of what he faced in cata / mop / wod ( if he even played that long ) was 20s.
even if they were called " twinks " they went down like a match.

I played enha and ele in wod mostly. And my server is r1.

 

[Kórnikus20]

Damage on all feral abilities have been increased too. It's true that tiger's fury now gives 20 energy (before 60), but maybe, with that, the medium damage of feral is better now, and do not deppend so much on the tiger's fury.

Oh, and SHRED won't do neither 50% more damage from stealth, and neither more damage if the victim is bleeding out. (anyway the shred damage have been increased, as the other abilites)

It's true that the stun did a lot, but I think that maybe ferals wont be dead. The stun was very important on night elves (from 2 stuns to 0 stuns), but I think tauren druids still have a chance.

¿What do u think about that and the new bigger stats of the feral abilities?