Wtf.

Udiesoon said:
This notion of "OP" is thrown around way too much. Balance druids, imo, are in no way "OP", or "overpowered", .
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I stopped reading there

Now if you are too dumb to realize this , I guess I will point out something obvious , you are comparing balance druid to hunter , hunter did more dmg true , however they couldn't heal themself like a balance druid can, I could keep going with travel form , immune to poly , immune to slow , snare etc but I think you get the picture. Hunter were OP in differents ways that balance druid are OP now.

I wouldn't be surprised if you played a druid.

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Warriors are underpowered and is even more with the nerf. Warriors can't heal, warriors are very kitable and warriors don't do good damage compared to other classes. Warriors can occasionly interupt another class with charge but thats about the only good thing. Cata fury snare > double charge. What's the point of charging when you can only stay on a ranged target for 2 secs untill you get kited off? Warriors need hamstring back at low levels, pummel at kick level and a 10% damage buff.
 
Wonderingwhy said:
I stopped reading there

Now if you are too dumb to realize this , I guess I will point out something obvious , you are comparing balance druid to hunter , hunter did more dmg true , however they couldn't heal themself like a balance druid can, I could keep going with travel form , immune to poly , immune to slow , snare etc but I think you get the picture. Hunter were OP in differents ways that balance druid are OP now.

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I get the feeling you have not been part of the bracket for very long. You clearly have never been global'd by a hunter, attempted to take down a holy pally or a disc priest, have never felt the wrath of permanently being slowed by concussive shot, have never witnessed a 1.5k ferocious bite crit in your face, and never lived through the phase of 1k ambushes. If you want to avoid being killed by a balance druid, run behind a wall, or stay with a healer. No, warriors cannot 1v1 a balance druid, get over it.

I personally am happy when most of the other team's dps is balance, for when I FC (on whatever class it may be) I know I can avoid and kite them with ease. If you're one of those warriors who charges everything he sees, welp, I can't help you.

Edit: I don't think anyone is arguing here that warriors are the best dps class by any means. I think many people are happy with the state of the bracket, with the exception of a few key abilities, namely ferocious bite and possibly starsurge. I like the bracket, and the balance, much more than I have in a long time.
 
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Udiesoon said:
. You clearly have never been global'd by a hunter,
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wasn't that what Magic resistance potion were for ?

Also I like how you claim druid can't do as much burst as a hunter could in cata so that means they aren't OP

As I said before they are OP in different ways than hunter were in Cata. Are they as OP as hunter in cata , not quite but somewhat close. Their strenght is not the same , they are still OP
 
Wonderingwhy said:
wasn't that what Magic resistance potion were for ?

Also I like how you claim druid can't do as much burst as a hunter could in cata so that means they aren't OP

As I said before they are OP in different ways than hunter were in Cata. Are they as OP as hunter in cata , not quite but somewhat close. Their strenght is not the same , they are still OP
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They are not as "OP" as a hunter in cataclysm, they are "OP" in different ways, all this talk makes me think that balance druids just seem to be one of the Stronger classes/specs in the gulch, not overpowered. Say what you will, I don't have much energy for forum discussions, but if balance druids are overpowered, then so is anything that can live through their damage or compete with it. Good day sir.
 
Udiesoon said:
]. Say what you will, I don't have much energy for forum discussions, but if balance druids are overpowered, then so is anything that can live through their damage or compete with it. Good day sir.
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What a poor argument

Hunters were glass canon back in Cata with a bit of survivability aka disengage to run away from zerg

Balance druid right now aren't glass canon , however they can heal , run , avoid cc , do pretty good aoe dmg and burst dmg which is what makes them OP. If you were to give balance druid the same DPS as hunter back in Cata on top of their healing , their kitting , their shift out of snare , etc . Druid wouldn't be OP they would be god.

I think what you fail to realize is all the tools a druid have to get away / catch up to people and on top of that they can heal and do pretty good DPS. I would say they are similar to disc priest before penance dmg nerf.
 
Wonderingwhy said:
I stopped reading there

Now if you are too dumb to realize this , I guess I will point out something obvious , you are comparing balance druid to hunter , hunter did more dmg true , however they couldn't heal themself like a balance druid can, I could keep going with travel form , immune to poly , immune to slow , snare etc but I think you get the picture. Hunter were OP in differents ways that balance druid are OP now.

I wouldn't be surprised if you played a druid.

xxHolylipzqtxoxotwinkerxx liked your post I think thats the equivalent of -1 to your credibility
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-1 to your credibility.
 
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Dagamela said:
Yeah, but nobody talks about it... People are complaining about druids more rofl
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Well since penance dmg was nerfed , it's not that bad. Their double AoE fear is extremelly powerfull but they are squishy specially if you have the assistance of purge to remove their bubble.
 
Wonderingwhy said:
Well since penance dmg was nerfed , it's not that bad. Their double AoE fear is extremelly powerfull but they are squishy specially if you have the assistance of purge to remove their bubble.
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Personally, I think penance being nerfed for dmg is even a huge deal, it used to be one since it did insta dmg. But now since shadow word pain can be spammed and you can kite all melee- priests are immortal. Especially with that fucking psyfiend
 
Dagamela said:
Personally, I think penance being nerfed for dmg is even a huge deal, it used to be one since it did insta dmg. But now since shadow word pain can be spammed and you can kite all melee- priests are immortal. Especially with that fucking psyfiend
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If by immortal you mean they can beat any melee without a slow in a 1v1? Priest weakness is that they are the most easily trained healer and with the loss of renew they don't even have a cover for their bubbles. They are extremely good but I wouldn't say they are broken or in need of a nerf.
 
augiddin said:
If by immortal you mean they can beat any melee without a slow in a 1v1? Priest weakness is that they are the most easily trained healer and with the loss of renew they don't even have a cover for their bubbles. They are extremely good but I wouldn't say they are broken or in need of a nerf.
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A priest that doesn't randomly pop cds in 1v1s (which they'll never lose with endless mana pools now) will always have spells to get out of a jam with 2-3 people on you. Sure losing renew is unfortunate, but we also gained 40% resil, stronger bubbles, again endless mana. They are easily better than ever, renew or no renew
 
Everyone got the 40% resil and buffs to their healing, you have to look at them in the context of what they are competing with not just where they were in the last patch.
 
They are still extremely good, and really the only thing between synced DPSers and people getting burst down.
 
Dorigon said:
They are still extremely good, and really the only thing between synced DPSers and people getting burst down.
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Pretty much the same scenario as cata but I think the bubbles is slightly less important because burst does seem more toned down combined with larger health pools.
 
augiddin said:
Pretty much the same scenario as cata but I think the bubbles is slightly less important because burst does seem more toned down combined with larger health pools.
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As players start playing DPS classes to their limits, I'm thinking that burst will get to be more prevalent. Already seeing issues with destro/moonkin coordinated burst, and bubble is often the only thing saving intended victims.

I mean, look at Cata - locks and resto shamans weren't being played to their potential until about halfway through it.
 
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It's a possibility but on the same token healers should be learning 2 predict damage better, i guess only time will tell, either way priests are gonna be there for the fears though xD
 
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