Worst idea yet.

It is constantly surprising to find out exactly how far you are up your own ass.

I am just agreeing with OP here. (see thread title)
 
Don’t forget. If your only goal is to just cc and slow as part of team support, you could just roll a shaman and use consistent frost shock spam, with much of the similar gear/ enchants
 
you need to think
No I don't :p

always "helping your team win with a sub-optimal build without over-gimping yourself".
This man understands me.

so the idea should be utility and CC rogue that stacks talasite and live longer than a traditional rogue.
Definitely cc will have to play a big part of it.

so you need to stop tunnel visioning a 30-sec CD ability
No I don't ;)

stamina rogue should work with timely saps, stuns and other CCs and utilities, but only if you play, spec and enchant (for example, consider 2 https://www.wowhead.com/item=35498/formula-enchant-weapon-deathfrost ) optimally.

Understand your point, but its not what I am doing now. I think you underestimate one thing about my playstyle. I believe in my ability to outplay the difference when I decide to take sub-optimal choices. I do understand your points, and generally agree with your assessments and suggestions. I also believe that I can make significant impact on games no matter what my build is; so I would rather go all out on weird/bad shit.
 
good luck with this project, i think this is a much more solid idea than other meme builds as a good rogue can do well enough with CCs and objective plays alone.

obviously the best idea is to stack agility and then you can actually do dmg when it matters, but maybe having a huge health pool will lead to high survivability and some 5-head plays.
 
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Mabry ill survive long enough for 5 1-headed plays :)
[doublepost=1625599517,1625597011][/doublepost]Lookin over my build options. isn't there a necklace with 2 gem slots?
 
stam stacking is nice and all, but...
slot it with two +3 agi gems for glass cannon build!

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but then you miss out on 1 agi, dude!
(inb4 i have to remind everyone that 1-socket bonuses don't work, and that +1 AP is a lie)

*Shakes Fist* NGL, I have no idea what the stats are for scaled down Necklace of the Deep. I just assumed it would be 2 agi.
 
*Shakes Fist* NGL, I have no idea what the stats are for scaled down Necklace of the Deep. I just assumed it would be 2 agi.
3/3, it's still a meme item, giving up too much in secondaries for 3 primary or 3 stam
(depending on if you socket for: glass or for pure stamina)
 
@Lateraldrop
I have a full Stamina Outlaw Rogue (not 100% as I miss some items, but he is pretty thick).
And for real, it's very funny to heal people for a chunck (I have 5312 hp in bgs, so I heal my allies for around 796 hp.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/zuljin/sams

I made the Full Stamina before the PvP talent change because I want to play him as a support

Nice. That is pretty much what i am looking at. I will likely JC for the stam trinkets and use the 2 socket ring and neck but this is the idea anyway.
 
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