Will eu 19s come back and be active again?

lmao the funny thing is that the people that started playing the f2p bracket was the last ones that actually tried to get a pop in eu

This. I can't believe people are trying to blame me and some others for killing the bracket by moving to f2p lmao, I'm not saying I kept the bracket going or some shit, but it's not like I was broadcasting all MoP every evening "Que 19s" or anything, it's not like I loselogged as much as possible. Along with quite a few other people who just wanted pops and nice games.

And when I (we) had enough of hour long ques, afking on 19 broadcastspamming for hours to end (usually with people just ignoring and staying on their mains until ques actually popped) and bad games and decided to try a more active bracket instead, seriously people are blaming me for killing the bracket? Some people even have the guts to flame me for "not coming 19s when we need ppl, u just playing ur 20-24", when the situation was vice versa for months.

Srs...

ps so much truth in Dramas posts.
 
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Or log on EU better latency and mains for gold gear enchant etc
 
complete bulls**t. EU stopped popping when alliance realized they was a bracket right next door where you didn't have to face the same lame pre-made, over and over. then you guys jumped ship like rats.

OT: you'll probably get pops after the summer, i wouldn't hold my breath though.

The same lame premade is the one that has been completely dominating every single game in the EU. Maybe you should rephrase, at least I think lame is something completely different.

Jumped ship like rats? In order to get competitive games they were forced to move to NA servers. Jumping ship like rats is probably how you should define the massive migration from 15-19 to the 20-24 bracket, though.

It stopped popping when alliance found out about the 20-24 bracket? If I'm not mistaken trial accounts got their time limit removed in mid-cata, which is about 2 years ago now. Are you saying it took 2 years for the alliance players to find out?
 
The same lame premade is the one that has been completely dominating every single game in the EU. Maybe you should rephrase, at least I think lame is something completely different.

that's the glass is half full version. the glass is half empty (and true) version, is that you was beating bad pugs, with a BiS pre-made of OP classes.

Jumped ship like rats? In order to get competitive games they were forced to move to NA servers. Jumping ship like rats is probably how you should define the massive migration from 15-19 to the 20-24 bracket, though.

bollocks, if you/they wanted competitive games you shouldn't of farmed what was left into submission. FYI, US is crap too

It stopped popping when alliance found out about the 20-24 bracket? If I'm not mistaken trial accounts got their time limit removed in mid-cata, which is about 2 years ago now. Are you saying it took 2 years for the alliance players to find out?

because back then 19s was still worth Qing for. why on earth would anyone sit in never ending Qs to entertain you idiots...

anyone who isn't in TL, or kissing their asses knows whos telling the truth here. good riddens to all of you, and my condolences to the US.
 
there's multible reasons why eu 19s died out , and it's already been discussed about more than once..

OT: I recorn the activity will pick up again with next patch and when summer ends.
 
that's the glass is half full version. the glass is half empty (and true) version, is that you was beating bad pugs, with a BiS pre-made of OP classes.



bollocks, if you/they wanted competitive games you shouldn't of farmed what was left into submission. FYI, US is crap too



because back then 19s was still worth Qing for. why on earth would anyone sit in never ending Qs to entertain you idiots...

anyone who isn't in TL, or kissing their asses knows whos telling the truth here. good riddens to all of you, and my condolences to the US.

It's true that we were beating bad pugs, just like you said. A team better than the bad pugs is required in order to do so, which we had. Then again, Roula got together a premade team to challenge us, and he could choose anyone he wanted. The rules that applied to our choice of teamcomp/playstyle also applied to them, but they still lost. Thus, you can conclude, that TL did not only beat bad pugs. But the best possible premade the bracket had to offer (outside of TL).

You still don't understand why graveyard farming is an efficient strategy? Is it possible for them to farm the enemies' graveyard if the enemies are generally better than them? I'll give you a hint. Being better than the enemy is the cause. Graveyard farming is the result.

Explain your sentence: "why on earth would anyone sit in never ending Qs to entertain you" please. It seems paradoxical to me, unless you're saying we get entertained by watching ourselves and others never get pops.

Knows who's telling the truth? What truth exactly? Your arguments make no sense at all.

good riddens 2 u 2
 
people complained about tough love ruining games, and the second tough love left for US was the second the bracket stopped popping

that is a preposterous claim, only could you say this if the guild had been up since vanilla and only if your guild was a significant part of 19s in EU, there were always games even before yoy and even after most of you had gone US and played there, people just lost interest in trying 'cause simply put no one gave a fuck, HSA vet.s went inactive & PB's guild went down along with the rest of worth mentioning ally guilds, TL went US when for once they had a saying and could do something about 19s(recruiting new players, changing their attitudes to more welcoming, advertising 19s for ppl outside the bracket, always playing objective since clearing mid etc.)

Dont get it twisted there had always been games without your guild and games after your guild had gone US, most of the what was rest of EU 19s just lost interest, you stating your guild made bracket alive and well when you didnt even try any aforementioned things. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

*Rant over*

p.s. Cba fix typos you can google what you didn't understand, Google will spell-check for you
 
plz not this objective playing bullshit again srsly yes it might be possible to 3 cap but its riskier than to contain wait for stacks to come up then hunt down the efc and win with 1-0 or 2-0

ps im getting unbanned on west tonight i will pwn everything
 
US will take EU in with open arms! Games pop for 8-12+ hours everyday many times at least 2 games going at once later into day. :)
 
I stopped playing 19s caus I feel bad when containing and bored when contained.. F2P is more chill, plus you are not punished for pugging solo..
Now you can stop with your guesses as to ppls motivations because frankly you can't know for a fact what their motivation is/was.. unless you ask ppl ofc, but that's to much work I guess.
Have a nice day errybody :)
 
Ok guys ive read most of these and I don't quite understand. Look like a year ago when TL were 6-7 manning a few twinks quit and people said they were killing bracket but we kept getting pops. People like mesi and others were helping us get pops he spammed all over the place QUE 19S but no one qued and if they did they all went horde to que with TL coz they are too pussy for a challenge. TL were gy farming but barely anyone quit. When mesi left a LOAD others did too so if we wanted a pop TL had to que 6 man and when they did a few started giving out. But now we have no games. Everyone is either 20-24 US or quit. Please if you actually like this bracket log on everyday at like 5pm ( game time ) and just que both factions and try get a pop. For all those who gy farm don't do it until the bracket gets stronger or stop altogether. No hate towards anyone I mentioned in my post.
 
plz not this objective playing bullshit again srsly yes it might be possible to 3 cap but its riskier than to contain wait for stacks to come up then hunt down the efc and win with 1-0 or 2-0

ps im getting unbanned on west tonight i will pwn everything

If a group is 'containing' the other team in their gy, then they should be able to 3 cap in under 10 minutes. Assuming of course that there are any decent players on the group doing the containing, and not just some common trash.
 
If a group is 'containing' the other team in their gy, then they should be able to 3 cap in under 10 minutes. Assuming of course that there are any decent players on the group doing the containing, and not just some common trash.

say alliance team has 5 rogues and a druid then its unsafe for the fc and a healer to run alone while the rest contain and if the whole team runs their druid can pick flag up and their team gets off the graveyard

containing with 10 man even if the enemy team hasnt picked up flag is still a legitimate strategy to win games like these
 
It's true that we were beating bad pugs, just like you said. A team better than the bad pugs is required in order to do so, which we had. Then again, Roula got together a premade team to challenge us, and he could choose anyone he wanted. The rules that applied to our choice of teamcomp/playstyle also applied to them, but they still lost. Thus, you can conclude, that TL did not only beat bad pugs. But the best possible premade the bracket had to offer (outside of TL).

dunno wtf you're talking about as i'm not roula.



You still don't understand why graveyard farming is an efficient strategy? Is it possible for them to farm the enemies' graveyard if the enemies are generally better than them? I'll give you a hint. Being better than the enemy is the cause. Graveyard farming is the result.

no, i need some johnny come lately to explain it to me...

sorry winning isn't that important to me. i'd rather have a bracket to play than a good win ratio, i guess i'm not that insecure.

the best way to win a war would be to drop a nuke, right? shame what's left over no f**ker wants ain't it...

Explain your sentence: "why on earth would anyone sit in never ending Qs to entertain you" please. It seems paradoxical to me, unless you're saying we get entertained by watching ourselves and others never get pops.

no, i think it entertains you to sit in org and pat each other on the back. now that's all you can do (on the EU severs) gratz!

I stopped playing 19s caus I feel bad when containing and bored when contained.. F2P is more chill, plus you are not punished for pugging solo..
Now you can stop with your guesses as to ppls motivations because frankly you can't know for a fact what their motivation is/was.. unless you ask ppl ofc, but that's to much work I guess.
Have a nice day errybody :)

this^^

you seem to think we couldn't of all gone horde and tagged along. maybe some of us wanted to play the "risky" strat.

anyways, enjoy the queues o/
 
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Why do you even post in 19s saint, you don't play it, you make yourself look stupid and you just try to argue/flame... I don't know how you can find 20-24 enjoyable, 1 team stomps the other and the balance is horrid.
 
Why do you even post in 19s saint, you don't play it, you make yourself look stupid and you just try to argue/flame...

because i want to! and my arguments was all valid untill you joined TL...

I don't know how you can find 20-24 enjoyable, 1 team stomps the other and the balance is horrid.

because 19s pop 24/7 and are always balanced...
 
If a group is 'containing' the other team in their gy, then they should be able to 3 cap in under 10 minutes. Assuming of course that there are any decent players on the group doing the containing, and not just some common trash.


Bro do you even heard something about the legendary Trialdruid ? If not i know why you even post that...
 
I don't get why some of you are getting mad because some people group queue. This is a mmo-game, you're supposed to play with your friends...and additionally we would get way better games if more people group queued, that is ofc only if half of the alliance guilds weren't completely retarded ://. We can queue up whenever people want us to and also we're still up for any premade vs guilds and/or real id premades in a few weeks!
 
that's the glass is half full version. the glass is half empty (and true) version, is that you was beating bad pugs, with a BiS pre-made of OP classes.



bollocks, if you/they wanted competitive games you shouldn't of farmed what was left into submission. FYI, US is crap too



because back then 19s was still worth Qing for. why on earth would anyone sit in never ending Qs to entertain you idiots...

anyone who isn't in TL, or kissing their asses knows whos telling the truth here. good riddens to all of you, and my condolences to the US.

Hey man ! Bring back your mates and play FOTM x10 i'm able to fund ur twinks and premade TL aswell i give 100 euros via paypal to you if you win. In before " 0 individual skill " i also wanna duel priest vs priest still for 100 euros paypal.
 
the thing is we need some people to be queueing every evening or some days of the week so we can make a game pop.quack in aggramar said he will be funding 19s there and he might attract some people.if we have people queueing constantly we will probably get a pop.maybe we should schedule queues and it may be more beneficial that tough love organizes as its a very well known guild and its gonna attract more people(hopefully).maybe because people see well known tinks go US discourages them and go f2p and end game
 

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