Who is more skilled: arena players or bg players?

Who is more skilled?

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Arena but depends of comp but if you play mirror then it's skill definitely if you are wearing the same gear
 
wicktick said:
It's impossible for any player to analyze the individual movements of every player in a bg to decide on the best course of action. This means that "endless possibilities" do not actually enable a player to play more skillfully. As a consequence of the increased number of players, winning strategies and coordination become much simpler.

You're entitled to your opinion, you know, but you're absolutely wrong.
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Sorry to break to you, but someone's opinion cannot be wrong. It just differs from yours.

/cheers
 
I'm the best.
 
Bop said:
I don't buy the OPs logic at all. He asserts that the only variable in arenas is comp, and that skill isn't a factor. He assumes that we will accept that statement at face value, but he provides no evidence to support that.

He also suggests that RBGs have a higher skill cap since there are more possible scenarios in an RBG. While this completely disregards the fact that RBG comps are often very linear whereas 3v3 Arenas in a good season sport dozens of different viable comps that must all be memorized to achieve a high rating, it also is fairly irrelevant to the discussion at hand as I understand it.

We're discussing which is more skillful, not which has a higher skill ceiling. As it has come to mean in this thread, skillfulness is how much skill it takes to perform that activity at a competitive level. This is very different from a skill ceiling, which measures the maximum amount of success as a function of skill.

Rather than talking about who has more skill between the best arena players and the best battlegrounds players, we are talking about whether an average arena player performs better in battlegrounds than the average battleground player (and vice versa). So as Nexxerxd points out in that Arenajunkies.com post, RBGs tend to have a much lower skill floor than 3v3 arenas - you need much less skill to succeed in RBGs than you do in arenas.

EDIT: also, we don't really have the sample size to determine whether or not Level 20 "RBGs" have a higher skill floor than Level 20 Arenas, since there is a massive amount of cross over between the two activities.
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Have to agree with Bop on this one.
Having been on a few "high" end rated groups in the past, I can tell you for sure that many times the strategies are nearly the same for each map. The group composition is nearly always the same. The only time it changes depends on nerfs and buffs. And you adjust your group composition to compensate.
You cannot, I repeat, cannot compare end game PvP to lowbie PvP. They are two totally different things. As a dedicated healer, I find that I can make "more mistakes" at end game then I can in twinking. Even though I have three times the health as an average DPS they can still global me down before I can even get a single heal off. That has nothing to do with "skill".

/cheers
 
Totally different play styles.

BG is more objective oriented and some players will sacrifice themselves for the greater good of the team. Arenas helps you practice and master LoS a lot, but in an actual BG or wPvP with very few obstacles in the way, that doesn't really help.
 
If both comps are mirrors in the bgs and arenas I would say equal . Bgs just get a bad rep because it's what everyone ques first and most people don't get into arenas until later . On average I would say an arena player is better because on average I believe they have played longer . I don't think one takes more skill than the other though.
 
I feel like I'm missing something here. Since when did having the ability to acknowledge the existence of an objective become "skill"?
 
First off i wanted to say i love [MENTION=14560]Fael[/MENTION] 's signature, just lol.

I believe i am a good example of the type of player that most of you guys are trying to discuss.
I play arenas whenever they are going on in a competative manner, o have played 2v2 tournaments and now signed up a team for the 3v3 tourney,and i am also really active in the bg scene.
I organize 10v10s and pug regularly.

All in all i really feel that my experience in arenas against the regular people who play and in my opinion give a sense of competition auch as [MENTION=12571]Swag[/MENTION] [MENTION=15859]Flynn[/MENTION] [MENTION=14560]Fael[/MENTION] [MENTION=18826]Bop[/MENTION] [MENTION=19315]Suntosh[/MENTION] [MENTION=18689]Trialmop[/MENTION] [MENTION=19874]Watergun[/MENTION] [MENTION=17375]LennywBoreanTundra[/MENTION] and [MENTION=20770]Felfiend[/MENTION] and many more has really given me a better grasp at playing battlegrounds in both premade and pug settings.

Bg skills are less transferable to an arena setting than arena skills are into a bg. The higher levels of awareness and coordination that arenas are about have really helped me cement myself as a good player in battlegrounds.

My point is not about wether arenas take more skill than bgs but simply about arena players being better than bg players at both, at least in my opinion.

Arenas open up new doors into seeing the gameplay differently that i think benefit everyone who does them in the long run in other aspects of the game.
 
ETshaman said:
First off i wanted to say i love [MENTION=14560]Fael[/MENTION] 's signature, just lol.

I believe i am a good example of the type of player that most of you guys are trying to discuss.
I play arenas whenever they are going on in a competative manner, o have played 2v2 tournaments and now signed up a team for the 3v3 tourney,and i am also really active in the bg scene.
I organize 10v10s and pug regularly.

All in all i really feel that my experience in arenas against the regular people who play and in my opinion give a sense of competition auch as [MENTION=12571]Swag[/MENTION] [MENTION=15859]Flynn[/MENTION] [MENTION=14560]Fael[/MENTION] [MENTION=18826]Bop[/MENTION] [MENTION=19315]Suntosh[/MENTION] [MENTION=18689]Trialmop[/MENTION] [MENTION=19874]Watergun[/MENTION] [MENTION=17375]LennywBoreanTundra[/MENTION] and [MENTION=20770]Felfiend[/MENTION] and many more has really given me a better grasp at playing battlegrounds in both premade and pug settings.

Bg skills are less transferable to an arena setting than arena skills are into a bg. The higher levels of awareness and coordination that arenas are about have really helped me cement myself as a good player in battlegrounds.

My point is not about wether arenas take more skill than bgs but simply about arena players being better than bg players at both, at least in my opinion.

Arenas open up new doors into seeing the gameplay differently that i think benefit everyone who does them in the long run in other aspects of the game.
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You should really be thanking [MENTION=15859]Flynn[/MENTION] he's the master artist behind that masterpiece.
 
Spiriel said:
So much more skill involved in endgame when you have to press 5 buttons in a row for cc instead of 2...
Never rly got the concept of "more buttons = more skill". The BGs are the same, the arenas are the same, the toons dont turn into cars either.
You want skill? The may I suggest sculptor as a career option :)?
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sculptor as a career is a good way to endup homeless. :rolleyes: still cool, but not that much skill in being homeless
I do agree on "more buttons = more skill" is abit off but it gives more skill cap.
Do not by any chance defend endgame / skill req of this game as it is abysmal.
But in endgame every class can more or less cc other and that gives more room to master then @low lvl.
20sarenas can be fun, no argue but you learn far more about pvp from bgs then arenas. in this bracket.
 
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Really feel like bg heroes try way too hard to make what they do seem complicated. All the jumps and stuff you use to validate your skill level can be learned watching a 60 second video. Not hard tbh
 
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