Blackberryy
TBC Classic
They are playing this game on free accounts
Where are the noobs?
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fungchewuchi
Master of the Flying Guillotine
Tap
Legend
I wouldn't be surprised if some noob Blizzard dev got gy camped by a twink then decided to kill twinking.
Every expansion they have progressively made it harder to get queues.
Same thing they did with multiboxing, slowly phased it out.
Druiddroid
OG
doumatjee
Fastest gun in the west
EU usually pops inbetween 19.30-22.00.
People do a good amount of effort to make them work honestly. 29s rolled back to 20s to make games more equal and there has been some decent games.
There's wargames happening every saturday (sometimes sundays too) which people seem to enjoy alot too. The only thing we have to work on is when the games are imbalanced, is rolling back more to either weaker classes/specs or switch sides. I appreciate the effort people are doing.
Even though there doesn't seem to be a big payoff yet, hopefully there will be in the future.
I don't think we ever had a fotm problem (although obv its annoying), but more of a people/mentality problem. Where people pick being the big 'dog' and winning over better games and competition. You need a caring community to keep eachother sharp to make it work. Back in the day when everyone cared we had an unspoken code of fairplay keeping the quality high, but once these people were gone who's there to watch over the quality? It is those people you need for a healthy bracket. Without them the bracket became a self destructive wild wild west. The playerbase declined so rapidly after xpoff became a thing again too.
As for US, not sure what the state of the bracket currently is. There was a time i sat in que forever and just gave up. People also seem to make it their mission to walk other players over. Where even when you sit in que for an hour and finally get a pop 29 premades try to farm the maximum out of the game, not caring if it dies.
Anyway, hopefully you guys still get games going too & hopefully your community does what needs to be done to improve games and ques.
People do a good amount of effort to make them work honestly. 29s rolled back to 20s to make games more equal and there has been some decent games.
There's wargames happening every saturday (sometimes sundays too) which people seem to enjoy alot too. The only thing we have to work on is when the games are imbalanced, is rolling back more to either weaker classes/specs or switch sides. I appreciate the effort people are doing.
Even though there doesn't seem to be a big payoff yet, hopefully there will be in the future.
I don't think we ever had a fotm problem (although obv its annoying), but more of a people/mentality problem. Where people pick being the big 'dog' and winning over better games and competition. You need a caring community to keep eachother sharp to make it work. Back in the day when everyone cared we had an unspoken code of fairplay keeping the quality high, but once these people were gone who's there to watch over the quality? It is those people you need for a healthy bracket. Without them the bracket became a self destructive wild wild west. The playerbase declined so rapidly after xpoff became a thing again too.
As for US, not sure what the state of the bracket currently is. There was a time i sat in que forever and just gave up. People also seem to make it their mission to walk other players over. Where even when you sit in que for an hour and finally get a pop 29 premades try to farm the maximum out of the game, not caring if it dies.
Anyway, hopefully you guys still get games going too & hopefully your community does what needs to be done to improve games and ques.
shanker
OG
disagree, twinks killed twinking, blizzard reacted to twink requests and complaints of those who used to be, still are on this forum, they even linked their complaint threads to get traction from previous twink forums and again....this forum. changes to twinking did not miraculously happen on DF prepatch. after legion there was a war between 20s and 29s, 29s lost at start of BFA, 29s lost in SL, 29s finally won on DF and....they lost overall since bracket is dead. i suspect most of those 29s are playing older or other versions of WOW
Blizzard pretty much killed world PVP starting in BFA with PVP on/off which was a reaction to QQ of high level players in Legion. because of legendary gear luck, artifact weapon, high end raid gear, trinkets, neck/ring combos made world PVP seriously imbal. that was also a reason why template PVP failed. you could be god mode in WPVP, and in BGs not so OP.
i seriously doubt any noob blizzard dev would be actually leveling in retail, leveling in PVP for what 10% more XP? and not report all the gear issues the game has.
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chelly
Legend
This thread belongs in blizz forums. Not here. I’m willing to go back to the forums if we get some coordination going from twinks on this site
the roadmap for the next expansion is set in place. NOW is the time to make voices heard because blizz will likely be tinkering with fundamental systems like f2p/ vet and xp brackets as they integrate the new expansion into the game
Can twinks create a positive outcome for themselves on the forums?
Magrain
Veteran
No, I sincerely doubt we can. Twinks in their nature are power hungry, pry on the weak and the meek. Making a positive change is not twinking. Levelers hate us, they cant be us, and will never be us. And we hate them, rules of nature. Either that or its just me on the schizo pills again.
Beachcomber
OG
Not everyone was like this. It was just easier to be like this.
shanker
OG
players are split into other games than retail WOW, i count other versions of WOW as other games and near same as private servers
there are no more voices that are subbed to complain, that's why DF is near done and enhancements from first 12 years still require i-level 50 or lower.
right now due to talent trees and abilities we have a larger x0-x9 power imbalance than we had in CATA along with a worse i-level gear difference of 25 n blues/epics from x0-x9 any bracket had in CATA. twinks spoke up, also explained how this helped levelers and brackets were split to x0-x4 and x5-x9 for near 4 years
imo the only bracket that could be fairly even would be 19 XP off subbed, Vet19, and F2P19s since they are able to go XP off again. which btw, twinks complained to blizz during CATA and stopped F2Ps from using XP off option at NPCs. blizzard would have to do nothing. if there were voices, blizzard maybe would create a 20 only bracket?
one of the things that killed 19s, players not liking random BGs, some only wanted to do WSG, they complained about AB, EOTS, etc due to lack of mounts and speed. i gave examples of things that have changed at 19 like shams having GW, feral having +30% speed, all druids having TF, along with other classes having speed ups that weren't in the game, many seem to forget or did not play when 20-29s, and 30-39s had no mounts. teams used druids, and shams then to get to flags faster. it also was not uncommon to see players without mounts in higher brackets due to lack of gold. Mounts are now no longer a issue since we get them at level 10.
chienna
OG
in an age of arena e-gaming i would think blizzard would embrace the player-base not condemn it as a bastard stepchild. maybe theory-crafters think its unmanageable as a sport but the player-base is going where the fun is, and being farmed by scrubs in godgear ... isnt fun.