What's wrong with Shaman?

JimOw

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Admittidly I don't play this bracket but what's wrong with it? The mana efficiency? The Damage? I came up with this gear set for elemantal.



Head - [ITEM]Spellpower Goggles Xtreme[/ITEM]

Neck - [ITEM]Crystal Starfire Medallion[/ITEM]

Shoulder - [ITEM]Death Speaker Mantle[/ITEM]

Back - Battle Healer's Cloak

Chest - [item]Robes of Arugal[/item]

Bracers - [item]Spidertank Oilrag[/item] / [item]Gallan Cuffs[/item]

Gloves - [item]Resilient Handgrips[/item]

Belt -[item]Ghamoo-ra's Bind[/item]

Legs - [item]Gaze Dreamer Pants[/item]

Feet - [item]Spidersilk Boots[/item]

Ring 1 - Advisor's Ring

Ring 2 - Seal of Argas

Trinket 1 - Unsure.

Trinket 2 - Unsure.



Weapon - [item]Skullbreaker[/item]

Shield - [item]Marbled Buckler[/item]
 
IMO, get a better healm - pure +sp is not so great...you need some stats to balance out everything. Check out the Whisperwind Headdress - sp, int, stam, spirit all on 1 item.



Ellie shammies are pretty rare, the vast majority I have seen are enhancement or resto.
 
vinod said:
IMO, get a better healm - pure +sp is not so great...you need some stats to balance out everything. Check out the Whisperwind Headdress - sp, int, stam, spirit all on 1 item.



Ellie shammies are pretty rare, the vast majority I have seen are enhancement or resto.
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But why are they rare? are they especially bad? Tend to go OOM - or people don't know how to play them?
 
Lol it's because it takes a fair amount of skill to play ele in the 29 bracket. I used to roll ele on my shaman at 29 and it was a bitch and a half to play man. You're lucky now that they've reduced the cast time on LB to 2.5 secs rather than the 3 secs I had to deal with.



You have linked basically the same setup I used, except I had whisperwind headdress instead of the gogs and crescent of forlorn spirits because I was ally. I might suggest also getting Deadman's hand and trying it out as the proc will probably be pretty nice to get people off from you. Also, "Spidersilk Boots" provide more SP than acidic walkers and give you a small amount of stam at the sacrifice of some spi and int. And if you're looking into some more SP you might want to also snag up "glowing magical bracers" for an SP intensive gear set.



You can toss out some pretty decent burst if you get LB crits and then an ES right after words. You can also do a fair amount of support with purging, totems, and throwing out lesser healing waves. I had someone so surprised that I was an ele shaman in a bg one time that they just followed me around healing me the whole bg while I ran flag and owned people and they were actually spec'd as a shadow "dps" priest. It can be a decent amount of fun, but also really frustrating as waiting for the 2.5 sec cast time can be annoying. But, with the pushback nerfs and many other changes I think it's more viable now than it was when I played it. You should do alright, have fun.
 
Maerduk said:
Lol it's because it takes a fair amount of skill to play ele in the 29 bracket. I used to roll ele on my shaman at 29 and it was a bitch and a half to play man. You're lucky now that they've reduced the cast time on LB to 2.5 secs rather than the 3 secs I had to deal with.



You have linked basically the same setup I used, except I had whisperwind headdress instead of the gogs and crescent of forlorn spirits because I was ally. I might suggest also getting Deadman's hand and trying it out as the proc will probably be pretty nice to get people off from you. Also, "Spidersilk Boots" provide more SP than acidic walkers and give you a small amount of stam at the sacrifice of some spi and int. And if you're looking into some more SP you might want to also snag up "glowing magical bracers" for an SP intensive gear set.



You can toss out some pretty decent burst if you get LB crits and then an ES right after words. You can also do a fair amount of support with purging, totems, and throwing out lesser healing waves. I had someone so surprised that I was an ele shaman in a bg one time that they just followed me around healing me the whole bg while I ran flag and owned people and they were actually spec'd as a shadow "dps" priest. It can be a decent amount of fun, but also really frustrating as waiting for the 2.5 sec cast time can be annoying. But, with the pushback nerfs and many other changes I think it's more viable now than it was when I played it. You should do alright, have fun.
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Thanks.



I was just intrieged as to why it's not a played spec at 29, still unsure whether to go Enhanc or Ele for a Ret Pally 2vs2 Partner.
 
JimOw said:
Thanks.



I was just intrieged as to why it's not a played spec at 29, still unsure whether to go Enhanc or Ele for a Ret Pally 2vs2 Partner.
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I never played any arenas as ele in 29 so I can't help you there. I played both Enh and ele extensively though and the amount of burst for both classes seemed the same. Auto-attacking with CM @ 3.8 attack speed was boring as all hell though.



I would say your support as ele would be higher than as enh because you would have a greater mana pool for doing things like purging, dropping totems, and even clutch healing (lesser healing wave is pretty OP). Whereas enh might have more solo survivability with imp GW and imp earthbind totem.



When I played this spec in this bracket elemental fury was down a tier and unavailable at 29. Having 100% increase in crit damage only increases the amount of burst you could achieve.
 
Maerduk said:
I never played any arenas as ele in 29 so I can't help you there. I played both Enh and ele extensively though and the amount of burst for both classes seemed the same. Auto-attacking with CM @ 3.8 attack speed was boring as all hell though.



I would say your support as ele would be higher than as enh because you would have a greater mana pool for doing things like purging, dropping totems, and even clutch healing (lesser healing wave is pretty OP). Whereas enh might have more solo survivability with imp GW and imp earthbind totem.



When I played this spec in this bracket elemental fury was down a tier and unavailable at 29. Having 100% increase in crit damage only increases the amount of burst you could achieve.
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Thanks :)



It's going to be a fair bit different than 19, I usually just Kite people with my shocks, this time I'll have some more spells :)
 
I found lightning bolts too long to cast in a 29 BG. You never have that much time to stand still and you don't have anyway to keep someone from stopping you or getting away(like sheep). You can't reach the reduced cast time talent until some time in the 30's. And you get Chain Lightning at 30. I have a 39 shammy and he's fun. I don't rule the boards but I have a good time. I've thought since the changes that resto at 19,29,39 might be really powerful and would sport pretty much the same gear.
 
Wide said:
I found lightning bolts too long to cast in a 29 BG. You never have that much time to stand still and you don't have anyway to keep someone from stopping you or getting away(like sheep). You can't reach the reduced cast time talent until some time in the 30's. And you get Chain Lightning at 30. I have a 39 shammy and he's fun. I don't rule the boards but I have a good time. I've thought since the changes that resto at 19,29,39 might be really powerful and would sport pretty much the same gear.
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Isn't resto too limited? Were as Ele you can off heal?
 
uhhh, there is nothing wrong with shaman at 29. they are one of the strongest classes in the level bracket.



you can go pretty much any spec and you will be effective.
 
Lloydganks said:
uhhh, there is nothing wrong with shaman at 29. they are one of the strongest classes in the level bracket.
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Can ah getta heeeellll yeaaahhh!



To be honest, I don't know about relative power levels. But I do know that my 29 resto shaman remains my favorite twink, and she doesn't even have BoA gear yet!



Shamans are not scoreboard players. You're not going to get the biggest crits or the biggest heals. But played well, you can make the single biggest impact on the battlefield. Your cumulative scores on the chart can outdo just about everyone, and more importantly, your totems and shocks can really undermine the tactics of the opposing side. I'm not even that great a player and people love it when I show up on the 29 BG.



Bwappo
 
Ahh ye I know how fun they are, I play one at 19 - but in my short time in 29 I had never seen one. I can hold my own in arena - Occasionally soloing a 2vs2 (okay .. a bad team :p )
 
Thanks! Time to log for me, If anyone has any more C/C please feel free to comment.

Night
 
Figured I might as well toss out an explaination on why imp fire nova totem and reduced pushback is nice. The stun on the fire totem can be an ass saver as well as pushback, you're going to really want the reduction on pushback, especially since you don't have cast time reduction in this bracket. Also the 100% crit damage bonus (5/5 Elemental fury) effects your fire nova totem and imp fire nova totem increases it's damage by 20% which can lead to some pretty huge crits for extra burst with a useful stun. IE, you have a rogue on you, say you get cheapshotted, trink, drop earthbind, drop fire nova, dispell poisons on you if any, fire nova goes off, you back off get range, earthbind is still up proceed to kite with frost shock etc. Of course the rogue can trinket as well, but either way it's a nice thing to have, it can also work as an additional interrupt if you drop it next to a healer/caster.
 
Reverb (-1 sec from shock CDs) VS Elemental Fury (changes crits from 1.5x to 2x dmg) - Do you have enough crit % to make EF a reasonable DPS increase as compared to +17% dmg (/applications) of shocks?



1 point in either of the above VS filling in EotS (-24% pushback on lightning)
 
"IMO all classes/specs can preform decently well in this bracket, while there are a few choice classes in which people flock to, this will happen regardless. ^.^ "

you have a 29 hunter...



the real problem with ele is crit. with the twink nerfs, you cant stack enough crit because you cant sacrifice other stats for it. almost every class needs at least 2k hp to deal with the op, terribad hunter onslaught. resto gives you the most survivability and team support, however tbh you wont be able to kill much. ele will give you the ability to support some and kill anything but a hunter or half-way decent rogue.
 
Elemental is sort of meh @ 29 imo. I just find it extremely hard to stay alive w/o Healing Focus. I prefer this The World of Warcraft Armory spec for elemental and resto simply because i dont die. I find i can do much more dmg with this spec because i hardly ever die.



The other spec id go for is 20 points in enhance for resto or ele The World of Warcraft Armory Speccing into the Ele tree at this level isn't worth it imo. You give up way too much utility... unless all you care about is seeing slightly bigger numbers.



Also, you reference me [char=Maiev]Bl%C3%ADtzkrieg[/char] for gear help if you need.
 
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