What shall become of Rets?

What shall become of Rets (multiple choice)

  • Nothing needs to be changed

    Votes: 9 27.3%
  • Healing nerf

    Votes: 16 48.5%
  • Damage Nerf (y u do dis)

    Votes: 6 18.2%
  • Damage Buff

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Healing Buff (no pls)

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Boa Nerf

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Rebuke

    Votes: 7 21.2%
  • Cleanse CD buff

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • Total voters
    33

Tom Ganks

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I've been wondering.

Although endgame issues are #1 and can inevitably effect our lower lvl brackets, I wanna discuss what we think rets need to become and what changes need to be made.

This is NOT a f2p vs p2p discussion thread, as the bracket will be balanced (scaling wise) pretty damn soon. No hate neither. So shut yer yapper.

A lot of you are complaining about Ret paladins and what they are capable of. But how do you differ them from the mobility and/or sheer power of a Feral, Boomy, or WW monk? Or the shear Brute force of an Arms warrior?

Retribution paladins, for the longest time, were almost to the point where they weren't a viable or completely beneficial class (minus their healing potential). Hardly anyone ever rolled one, and the ones that did never really complained. (we're talking f2p here. 24 rets demolished).

Now that we finally have the damage, and lets not forget, the most necessary holy power from judgment casts, we are finally a spec that is feared. But isn't that what every class needs? Intimidation? Or Nerfing to the point where they are no longer threat to your semi-decent and/or current op class. Just to make you feel a little better.



Here's what I think needs to go down:

What needs to stay- Judgement Holy-power gain, Long arm of the Law (both of which will prob stay anyway), and the damage.

What needs to nerf- Healing capability (maybe down by 20% or so)

What needs to be buffed- We need rebuke at lower lvl (60 sec cd for hoj wont cut it; those casts wont interrupt themselves), and Cleanse CD in bgs.

What needs to be changed overall- Boa damage/stats in comparison to a blue of equal level (Currently auto-attacking for like 350-400 in bgs), and Insignia needs to make the user immune to stuns/movement impairing effects for 2 seconds (popping trink and getting rooted or poisoned right after can be very bothersome and wasteful)

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I know this is unlikely, but this is what I think needs to happen. Again, however a class works at endgame inevitably determines the fate of a lowbie. (but rest assured, a lot of 90s are complaining about feral damage at endgame)

But this is a discussion about rets. Please keep it about so.

Polar bears vs hippos is fine as well.
 
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Well for one i really like that ret has brought a major comeback into the bracket, i prefer it over silencing AVShield, however seeing that ret is being played too much will become a problem, i feel like we'll be seeing threads attacking ret pallies just like we saw on hunters during mop, if ret remains unchanged this expansion
 
Not sure they'll be touched at this level, if they nerf anything it'll be the amount of procs (Divine Storm especially) they get at max level which won't affect this bracket.
 
Anyway, regardless of the previous comments... i say ... all taht should be nerfed ( lower their dps / dmg ) are Ferals and Monks' Firsts of Fury.

Is it just me or is AGI not converting to spell power for Ferals like it should? My spell power still seems to come from INT which reading the tooltips it shouldn't (plus Boomies/Resto get the INT to AGI in bear/cat form)
 
Is it just me or is AGI not converting to spell power for Ferals like it should? My spell power still seems to come from INT which reading the tooltips it shouldn't (plus Boomies/Resto get the INT to AGI in bear/cat form)

God damn it, you have the highest dmg in pvp and you now complain about healing... man... idk.
Im done. lol
 
Heals are op. But my god these guys sucked. I'm sorry. The druid was defending their fc, figured he would just ignore me and go back to his base. But ya know, some people gotta fulfill their egos. Gave us the cap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sPgUjZmzWQ
 
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Heals are op. But my god these guys sucked. I'm sorry. The druid was defending their fc, figured he would just ignore me and go back to his base. But ya know, some people gotta fulfill their egos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sPgUjZmzWQ

Yes off heals are a little silly. compared to rogue/hunters thru cata/mop, you cant one shot someone with heals.

2 weeks of pre patch or nearly 4 years of derp/op classes. not thread worthy in the slightest.
 
Yes off heals are a little silly. compared to rogue/hunters thru cata/mop, you cant one shot someone with heals.

2 weeks of pre patch or nearly 4 years of derp/op classes. not thread worthy in the slightest.

It's thread worthy is people are voting and talking about it. And there were a bunch about the other classes. They were usually just followed by hate and spite between fellow TI users.

And a thread literally is a fraction of your upward/downward scrolling. No flashy lights, gimmicks, just the personal option of reading. To click, or not to click? That is the question.
 
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It's thread worthy is people are voting and talking about it. And there were a bunch about the other classes. They were usually just followed by hate and spite between fellow TI users.

The point is, compared to the previous 2 expansion, ret healing is completely irrelevant in the pre patch to the next expansion.

i.e most likely going to be fixed on release. soz if this is news to you bae xoxo
 
If they gave us rebuke at this level i think everybody would lose their shit tbh. Bis heals, above average damage, a stun, a cleanse, AND a spell interrupt?
Granted, i think all specs should be given at least 1 CC and 1 interrupt at lvl 10, imo.

You guys want to know the secret to beating a ret? Stop 1v1ing them.
 

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