What level do greens drop for lvl 19?

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What level character would someone need to be able to loot armor pieces that have a requirement of level 19(which the item lvl would most likely be 23 or 24). For example if I ran Blackfathom Deeps(dungeon) on a level 19 I would loot armor that has a requirement of level 13. I have been running Blackfathom Deeps on higher level toons around the mid 20s levels but still can't find an answer. I know you can loot the chests in dungeons that are based on the old drop table, but is that the only source?
 
Following this thread, i have been looking for answer myself and did some testing to (for 19 bracket) but i seem to have very random results. I use a lvl 23 to try and farm green boe's but the item levels are very random (going from ilvl 19 to ilvl 27) Most of the greens have required level 16 and i got a blue boe (staff of the friar) wich was exactly scaled to lvl 23.
Questions i still need to clearify

-> Does your ilvl have any effect ?
-> Does your lvl have any effect ?
-> Does the NPC lvl have any effect ?
-> Does the zone 'world, dungeon, etc' have any effect?
-> Does your class have any effect ? (in open world and dungeons)
-> Do all Boe scale ? or is just some items?

Hoping to find a viable way of farming greens for a specific level.
 
I have been trying and experimenting too (but for 29 twinks) and I have found that on my lvl 33 character, green drogs that are weapons have lvl 29 req, but gear is lvl 26 req...

how many of both gear and wep boe drops did you get that you are certain they ALWAYS are this level ? I havent checked on the difference between weps and gear require levels so this is something i have to look into.
 
@Lightkîng
Im not sure how this stuff works but I got 2 or 3 weps with req 29 (of Quickblade/aurora/fireflash) But those were from dungeons.

Armor pieces I have gotten has been from rare spawns or non rares in open world. And these greens have been mosly req 26.

Anyway... it is another thing worth looking into (dungeon drops vs world drops)
I can confirm this. Armor and weapon drops have a level difference.
* Still looking for answers
 
Following this thread, i have been looking for answer myself and did some testing to (for 19 bracket) but i seem to have very random results. I use a lvl 23 to try and farm green boe's but the item levels are very random (going from ilvl 19 to ilvl 27) Most of the greens have required level 16 and i got a blue boe (staff of the friar) wich was exactly scaled to lvl 23.
Questions i still need to clearify

-> Does your ilvl have any effect ?
-> Does your lvl have any effect ?
-> Does the NPC lvl have any effect ?
-> Does the zone 'world, dungeon, etc' have any effect?
-> Does your class have any effect ? (in open world and dungeons)
-> Do all Boe scale ? or is just some items?

Hoping to find a viable way of farming greens for a specific level.

Its been a while, but theres definitely been a few threads about farming greens in the past. I'll try to remember some of the interesting things that were found.

First is that you can use wowhead to see how ilvl works for scaling greens. Take https://www.wowhead.com/item=15946/mystics-sphere&bonus=4280 for example. You can hover over "scales with ilvl" and click on the various versions to see what ilvls it drops at. It won't show the proper required level, but its based on the ilvl. You'll see it only sort of follows a pattern for ilvl. 10, 14, 18, 23, 27, 32, 37, 42, 47, etc. Weapons and armor definitely scale differently. I think for greens there are other differences in scaling as well (I know when the item was added was considered and discussed, I think pre-cata or something was different?).

Second is that the zone scaling window seems to have an affect. This is the thread you want to find if you can. Basically items won't scale below a certain point depending on the zone floor. So say you got to a 30-60 zone on your 19 (or 23/24 farmer) - the greens won't scale down that far. I can't remember the exact details, but if you can find that thread it had a theory that would be good for farming. EDIT: https://xpoff.com/threads/uncommon-green-item-farm-results.80139/#post-1111674

Things that drop from a specific zone/mob scale directly to the level of the looter. So Talon of Vultros only drops from Vultros. Shadowfang only drops in SFK.

For world drop blues...
Blue weapons drop at ...I think ilvls ending in 0/5. So you would see an ilvl 25 item that has required level of (ilvl - 8) for level 17 required.
Blue armor drops at ilvls ending in 8/3 with a required level of (ilvl - 8). So you can get a level 20 cloth belt with ilvl 28. Or a level 15 cloth belt with ilvl 23.
 
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Its been a while, but theres definitely been a few threads about farming greens in the past. I'll try to remember some of the interesting things that were found.

First is that you can use wowhead to see how ilvl works for scaling greens. Take https://www.wowhead.com/item=15946/mystics-sphere&bonus=4280 for example. You can hover over "scales with ilvl" and click on the various versions to see what ilvls it drops at. It won't show the proper required level, but its based on the ilvl. You'll see it only sort of follows a pattern for ilvl. 10, 14, 18, 23, 27, 32, 37, 42, 47, etc. Weapons and armor definitely scale differently. I think for greens there are other differences in scaling as well (I know when the item was added was considered and discussed, I think pre-cata or something was different?).

Second is that the zone scaling window seems to have an affect. This is the thread you want to find if you can. Basically items won't scale below a certain point depending on the zone floor. So say you got to a 30-60 zone on your 19 (or 23/24 farmer) - the greens won't scale down that far. I can't remember the exact details, but if you can find that thread it had a theory that would be good for farming.

Things that drop from a specific zone/mob scale directly to the level of the looter. So Talon of Vultros only drops from Vultros. Shadowfang only drops in SFK.

For world drop blues...
Blue weapons drop at ...I think ilvls ending in 0/5. So you would see an ilvl 25 item that has required level of (ilvl - 8) for level 17 required.
Blue armor drops at ilvls ending in 8/3 with a required level of (ilvl - 8). So you can get a level 20 cloth belt with ilvl 28. Or a level 15 cloth belt with ilvl 23.
Yeah we know items scale at different levels, yes zones have item level limitations, and yes items like shadowfang from SFK will scale with your level up to 60. What's in question is greens for example from Blackfathom Deeps or other dungeons that are known to drop BIS gear for level 19.
 
Yeah we know items scale at different levels, yes zones have item level limitations, and yes items like shadowfang from SFK will scale with your level up to 60. What's in question is greens for example from Blackfathom Deeps or other dungeons that are known to drop BIS gear for level 19.

I was answering Lightking's questions.

For the original question, we don't even know if greens drop at req level 19 anymore. Green scaling is all over the place. For a while level 23/24 was theorized as the right number, but it seems like for armor it is ilvl19/req16 and then jumps straight to ilvl23/req20. Its very inconsistent and afaik no one has figured it out yet.
 
I was answering Lightking's questions.

For the original question, we don't even know if greens drop at req level 19 anymore. Green scaling is all over the place. For a while level 23/24 was theorized as the right number, but it seems like for armor it is ilvl19/req16 and then jumps straight to ilvl23/req20. Its very inconsistent and afaik no one has figured it out yet.
That's pretty much what my testing has come to. The only thing I see that drops the armor gear for level 19 BiS are the Chests and Rare spawns.
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Ok so i just finished my farming session in BFD with my lvl 23 Druid.
From my results i can categorize the loot in 4 main groups .

weapons (all require lvl 20 and ilvl 23):
https://gyazo.com/96b520b878ba7cf3e1d396f6cbe4805c

armor (all requires lvl 16 and ilvl 19):
https://gyazo.com/b13833262224a5c6427f0f0e9e885839
-> yes i had a demon band of lvl 16 :'( feels bad

dungeon specific BOE (scaled to my level 23)
https://gyazo.com/b91890aa7beead5b5374d81ebb285f1c

Chest and weapon crate loot (stay the same as the original item)
(im guessing lockboxes to, i have two and i will test them)
https://gyazo.com/08fe8b3c167faf0166a50f3e7db4e19d

I have now leveled the character to lvl 24 and locked the xp again. Im going for a second farming session later on to check the results. lets pray for the 19 items now :p

Note: The class you are using does not have any effect on the loot you receive as far as i can see.
 
Ok so i just finished my farming session in BFD with my lvl 23 Druid.
From my results i can categorize the loot in 4 main groups .

weapons (all require lvl 20 and ilvl 23):
https://gyazo.com/96b520b878ba7cf3e1d396f6cbe4805c

armor (all requires lvl 16 and ilvl 19):
https://gyazo.com/b13833262224a5c6427f0f0e9e885839
-> yes i had a demon band of lvl 16 :'( feels bad

dungeon specific BOE (scaled to my level 23)
https://gyazo.com/b91890aa7beead5b5374d81ebb285f1c

Chest and weapon crate loot (stay the same as the original item)
(im guessing lockboxes to, i have two and i will test them)
https://gyazo.com/08fe8b3c167faf0166a50f3e7db4e19d

I have now leveled the character to lvl 24 and locked the xp again. Im going for a second farming session later on to check the results. lets pray for the 19 items now :p

Note: The class you are using does not have any effect on the loot you receive as far as i can see.
I also ran BFD but on my level 24 and I can also confirm I was getting armor which requires level 16 with ilvl 19.
 

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